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03-03-2022, 08:35 AM
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1973 21' Globetrotter
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Originally Posted by dbj216
Looks better than new. Maybe you have the only Globetrotter with a vista view window. I wonder if it was a factory option way back in 1971, or 50 years ago.
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My '73 GT has the vista view (stack) windows as well--might have been uncommon in'71, but I can't say that I have ever seen a 70's era GT without them.
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03-03-2022, 06:53 PM
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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I learned here on these Forums that a "vista" window was mounted above the side windows, and a "stack" window was below them. I find the 1971 Excella 500 31' was the first Airstream model with a vista window. I do not know when they became options in other models. I looked at some archive photos of early 70s Globetrotters and didn't see a vista window, but all of them had stack windows. Our 86 Limited 34' has stack windows, but no vista windows. So maybe they were an option.
I just don't know the detail history of the Globetrotter. Maybe someone will inform me of the vista window facts.
Aerowood's vista window looks unique and cool to me.
David
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03-14-2022, 06:08 PM
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#743
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Lower awning mounts installed. I used 316 stainless steel 1/4 - 28 cap screws with aircraft nut plates.
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03-14-2022, 06:33 PM
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#744
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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Aircraft quality as usual on your Globetrotter. You ought to see the lower awning mounts on my trailers. Yuck.
David
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03-15-2022, 01:36 PM
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1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
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Funny circumstance. Before I close up the interior skins, I took a look around and found the rear awning lockdown fitting practically falling off. Crap.
I drilled a "finder hole" through from the outside, then went in and cut an access into the rear plastic bath dome.
This allowed me to see that the one (yikes!) #10 sheet metal screw that was holding the fitting was tight in the curve of the rib. To put in nutplates I'll have to move the fitting about 3/16" forward.
Taking the fitting off revealed that the original attachment holes were either misdrilled or had pullout damage. Anyway, probably put in an outside plate with flush rivets and three inside (need to shim the main inside plate due to the rib flange and the rear dome skin).
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03-15-2022, 06:35 PM
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That's ugly, you going to remove the button heads out so the bracket sets flush.
My forward clamp bracket interferes with my Vista View frame. Going to have to shoot flush rivets in two locations. I also had to mill out a notch on the side of the bracket to clear the Vista view frame
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03-15-2022, 06:58 PM
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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I bet Zep will fix his right with a little guidance from Aerowood. David
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03-16-2022, 07:46 AM
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Well Zep really doesn't need my input, but we do talk about various things where I do we!come his advice.
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03-16-2022, 07:50 AM
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My picture on a previous post didn't load correctly so here it is again. Awning clamp bracket.
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03-16-2022, 04:27 PM
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Nutplate brackets for awning clamp brackets ready to install.
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03-18-2022, 05:18 PM
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#751
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Awning brackets installed and awning installed
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03-18-2022, 06:37 PM
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#752
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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Installing a new awning by yourself isn't the easiest job on the list. I helped a friend install two of them on his trailer last summer. They were heavy and awkward. Pulling the fabric down the rail was a chore.
David
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03-18-2022, 09:31 PM
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Didn't do it by myself, my brother helped me.
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03-25-2022, 03:49 PM
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03-25-2022, 06:49 PM
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
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Very nice. Makes an old trailer look newer. Did you restore the originals or were you able to source new ones somewhere? I bet you buck riveted the new emblems on the trailer to make sure they never fall off.
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03-25-2022, 07:11 PM
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I restored the original LANDYACHT, and GLOBETROTTER S/N plates. My trailer had the steel Airstream plates not the cast lettering. There was heavy corrosion under the original steel plates. I replaced the aft skin and sanded out the corrosion on the front center segment. Up close you can see the sanding marks but it looks pretty good from ten feet away. I made a trade to another Forum member for the cast letters which I restored. The LANDYACHT emblem is indeed riveted on with solid shank rivets (I have never heard the term "buck rivets" used in the aviation world, just here on the Airstream Fourms). The rest of the emblems and letters are fastened with a stamped steel nut that I sourced through McMaster Carr.
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03-26-2022, 06:40 PM
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#757
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1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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Thanks Aerowood. Sounds like the emblem restore was quite a project. I suppose you safety wired those stamped nuts so they can't come loose. I wonder if folks use a "bucking bar" when "shooting" solid shank aircraft rivets. Maybe some other tool is used.
David
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03-26-2022, 09:07 PM
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#758
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I Hershey kissed the nuts with sealant. Yes we use a "bucking bar" but it was generally just called a bar. Rivets are generally called solids and added in the head style and diameter. Like "I need some button head AD 5's", then one would ask how long, and the response would've been "l don't know, probably a 5 or a 6"
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03-29-2022, 10:14 AM
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#759
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1971 27' Overlander
Dickinson
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Aerowood, looking at your awning mounts, I really like the stainless plates. I cannot directly see from the pictures, but did you do anything to address the dissimilar metals and the two mating surfaces?
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03-29-2022, 10:36 AM
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The plates are .063 2024-T3 aluminum. They were also shot on wet with sealant.
I reread my original post and I can understand you thinking I used stainless for the doubler plate. The stainless was just the mounting hardware. I did not state what I used for the doubler and the nutplate brackets, which are the .063 aluminum to. There is also a .040 shim under one side of the doubler too alloy the doubler to set flat as the doubler spanned across a skin lap joint.
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