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Old 12-13-2013, 08:40 AM   #281
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Lumatic, is it the Pendejo cave between Sacramento and Guadalupe Mountains? I say this because of the small opening.
I googled Pendejo Cave and here is a link:
http://www.utep.edu/leb/Pleistnm/sites/pendejocave.htm

Pendejo's translation according to the Urban Dictionary is more than "stupid" closer to "dumass". Here is another link which will explain:

Cheech Teaches Chong the spanish word "PENDEJO" - YouTube
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:19 AM   #282
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Everyone should get to know this landmark as it has left 10 campgrounds with 310 free campsites in it's wake. Hold curser over picture for a clue.
Big Muskie?
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Pendejo's translation according to the Urban Dictionary is more than "stupid" closer to "dumass". Here is another link which will explain:

It also means "pubic hair" and is pretty insulting when referring to a person.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:34 AM   #284
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Big Muskie?
Correct, it's on the Ohio Recreation lands where you can camp for free on their many campsites.
Maps of the sites http://www.aep.com/environment/conse...f/CampMaps.pdf
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Pendejo's translation according to the Urban Dictionary is more than "stupid" closer to "dumass". Here is another link which will explain:

It also means "pubic hair" and is pretty insulting when referring to a person.
Here's a good reference:

Spanish profanity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The meaning varies quite a bit from cultural to cultural and place to place.
You better know where you are and whom you're with before you say it.

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Old 12-13-2013, 01:58 PM   #286
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Obviously. The photo in the original post on the right is my grandkids in Ape Cave. Here's a few more shots from the area.
Thanks for the pictures. I climbed Mt St. Helens in 1959.

I was sitting on the deck of our house in Enumclaw, WA, when Mt St Helens erupted. The first indication was a fast moving arc shaped cloud that passed overhead traveling fairly rapidly. I did not know what it was initially. However in a short time it became obvious as the boiling ash plume started to appear to the south of us. The sound of the explosion skipped over us but was heard quite a long ways north of us.

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It was not my intention to stir up anything with trying to identify the cave and mountain Thanks for posting the link so that everyone would know that there is a real cave with that name, although it did bring a smile to my face when I first heard about this cave years ago.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:28 PM   #288
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This is a very nice rest stop, rather entertaining with the toy train set and all the wild life. A good stop on a long drive.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:18 PM   #289
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For #288: That looks like the rest area at the bottom of Echo Canyon, Utah, on westbound I-80, just above the Weber River and junction with I-84. UP tracks in the background, and the old Lincoln Highway across Echo Creek and beyond the tracks.
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You are correct on post 288.
Echo Canyon Rest Stop. Westbound I 80 in Utah.

http://goo.gl/maps/3D9OI

We enjoyed the stop, with the view and short walking trail, and even though the sign says 'Do not feed the wildlife' we just had to drop some nuts to watch the scramble.

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The old highway across the tracks is drivable up-canyon for about six miles before it joins the freeway. There is a nice but dilapidated historical marker not too far up from a point across from the rest area. It goes into greater detail on the fortifications at the tops of the cliffs the Mormons built in 1857-58. This was during the so-called Mormon War or "Buchanan's Blunder" when General Albert Sydney Johnston (the same who commanded the Confederate army and was killed at Shiloh) led a large body of U.S. troops (nearly 3,000) to quell the "rebellion" and replace Brigham Young as governor of Utah territory. Several of these fortifications--several low dry masonry walls that provided shelter for Mormon sharpshooters near the tops of the cliffs--can still be seen. The best place for observing them is about a half-mile up the canyon from the eastbound rest area, although it's hard to pull over as you head up-canyon. They are there, amazingly intact after 150 years.
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Interesting, little known history, for those not from the area. Thanks 'youngpeck' for reminding us of this 'moment' in civilization's progress.

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Plaque A: (Orange in color) PIONEER DEFENSE FORTIFICATIONS In 1857, due to the false official reports and other misrepresentations, U.S. troops under General Albert Sydney Johnston, were sent to suppress a mythical "rebellion" among the Mormons. Brigham Young, then Governor, exercising his constitutional rights forbad the army to enter Utah on the grounds that there was no rebellion and that he had not been officially informed of the government's action in sending the troops. Strategic places between Fort Bridger and Salt Lake City were fortified. Remnants of these fortifications can be seen on the tops of the cliffs through this section of Echo Canyon. Settlers in Utah were ready to burn their homes and all public buildings. Fort Bridger and Fort Supply, then in Utah and owned by the Church, were burned. Following negotions between Governor Young and Captain Stuart VanVlist and mediation of Col. Thomas L. Kane, the army was held east of Fort Bridger during the winter of 1857-58 and entered Utah without opposition the next spring. It was recalled at the outbreak of the civil war. Plaque B: (Green in color) MORMON PIONEER TRAIL Seeking the "land of promise" in the Rocky Mountains, a place to which Joseph Smith their founder in 1842 predicted they would go, a land looked upon by them as a place of refuge after being driven from Missouri and Illinois, the "Mormon" pioneers passed through this canyon in 1847 under the leadership of Brigham Young. Nearing the end of a thousand mile pilgrimage to the "Zion" they expected to build, and weary from three months of travel over the Indian-infested plains and through the mountains, the pioneers were cheered by the crystal springs, the snow-clad peaks and the timber-covered hills. The first company left Winter Quarters (Omaha) Nebraska, on April 14, 1847 and reached the "Valley of the Great Salt Lake" July 24. They passed here July 14. There were 143 men, 2 women and 3 children in this group. A few weeks later the emigration began in earnest, a company of 2,000 reached Great Salt Lake City in September.


Some more entertaining historical info here.

America's forgotten war: LDS raiders kept Army at bay in 1857-58 | Deseret News

Billy Wardle genealogy: Isaac Wardle and Echo Canyon

When we travel, we are constantly reminded of the sacrifice that pioneers endured to give us what we have to enjoy today. Take time to appreciated it!

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I suspect the general location will be easy, but the specific may be a bit more challenging. The answer should the name of the formation and the specific location.
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I suspect the general location will be easy, but the specific may be a bit more challenging. The answer should the name of the formation and the specific location.
It's the Klansman in Slaughter Canyon Cave in Carlsbad Caverns.
I have not seen it in person, but now I would like to.

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