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Old 07-30-2009, 08:33 PM   #15
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It's not the film or digital, it's the photograph and the photographer.

You could take a beautiful photograph using an oatmeal container with a pin-hole, and it wouldn't matter a rats-a** how it was done.

The benefits far out weigh the negatives (no pun intended) and I'm not going into that.

Is it inconceivable that you could capture something as beautiful as the very first post to this thread with just a film camera? No. As lovely as that image is, right place/right time my friends.

I don't miss having my knuckles buried in alkalis, acids, and other toxic chemicals. If you've not done this, than you are lucky.

I to loved Kodachrome and shot many a brick of the stuff myself, but I don't miss the analog days at all. Get over it and keep putting the camera to your eye and business as usual. Technology has only made it easier to experiment and find your own voice with out the expense and environmental damage.

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Old 07-30-2009, 11:50 PM   #16
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No longer seeing double.

Hi, I have one concern with my digital cameras; I can no longer make, take, or shoot double exposures. I made some very interesting pictures with double exposures. If anyone knows a way to do this let me know.
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Yes, all the great old films are going the way of the Dodo. I just got the old dark room cranked up to teach a youngster about film. This will probably be the last film he will ever shoot. Everything has gone digital. It looks good, but it's not film. There is no personality to digital.
This sounds sooooooo like the comments we made about CD's vs vinyl albums when the CD first came out (~1984). I think film may be around for awhile....it's finding someone to process it that may be the problem. For that reason, those that know how to process B&W will be the keepers of a lost art!
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:31 AM   #18
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Hi, I have one concern with my digital cameras; I can no longer make, take, or shoot double exposures. I made some very interesting pictures with double exposures. If anyone knows a way to do this let me know.
It's all done in post-processing now... two exposures, overlays and transparancy levels.

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It's all done in post-processing now... two exposures, overlays and transparancy levels.

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This is what is done in HDR photography. Check out Rich Charpentier's image here for an example of HDR. He is a fellow Airstreamer that does HDR a lot and has a photo gallery in Prescott AZ.
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It's not the film or digital, it's the photograph and the photographer.

You could take a beautiful photograph using an oatmeal container with a pin-hole, and it wouldn't matter a rats-a** how it was done.

The benefits far out weigh the negatives (no pun intended) and I'm not going into that.

Is it inconceivable that you could capture something as beautiful as the very first post to this thread with just a film camera? No. As lovely as that image is, right place/right time my friends.

I don't miss having my knuckles buried in alkalis, acids, and other toxic chemicals. If you've not done this, than you are lucky.

I to loved Kodachrome and shot many a brick of the stuff myself, but I don't miss the analog days at all. Get over it and keep putting the camera to your eye and business as usual. Technology has only made it easier to experiment and find your own voice with out the expense and environmental damage.

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Hi, actually right place right time isn't very applicable. I sat there on grass playing with my doggie in the spring, I set up a Leica with a 135mm Elmarit-M, set to f2.8 and waited. I slept, scratched and also scratched the dog. The humming bird came around so I just shot while lying on the ground, never looking at the VF. If I had a dSLR, the photos would have been really nice. (Except I have haven't seen much glass that come close to Leica in quality of the OOF areas. Trying not to say Bokeh here.)

Film has a quality to me that is tangible, I like it. To compare film or digital (I'm not sure why digital was even mentioned in a film thread) is like starting a gas/charcoal/wood BBQ thread, circular and irrelevant.

I have a beater Hasselblad 500cm, I don't need batteries or a computer to take a picture. I have a Cambo 4x5, so I can make an awesome contact print without a computer.

I don't want a dSLR, hell, with a 35 Lux ASPH and a 75 Lux, I can't afford one! Not to mention a few 10s of grand more in Zeiss glass and Contax cameras

Our great great grandchildren will be debating, "I can't find a real dog since the robot dogs came out!"

With C-41, get it close to a stop (or two) and you have it just about right, Sunny 16 and no batteries no multi-segmented color corrected smile detection algorithm.

For my next trick, here's a photo I took on C-41, and a 1953 Contax range finder with a 35mm Biogon. If I were a real photog, I would have chosen another camera, but I like what I was able to capture with a machine built before I was born. (Metered with the original selenium cell that works, sometimes.)

The benefits don't out weigh the negatives, but you did bring that up.
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Warbler, I shot some VS and the old WS (long gone) in Israel. That was 6 years ago, so please start a thread on if you like it. I have a few thousand negatives to review, I don't know which thumbs on my PC were taken with it.

Let us know your results! Thanks in advance. Oh, btw, try some if the new Ektar 100, nice stuff. Comes in 120 also.
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Hi, I have one concern with my digital cameras; I can no longer make, take, or shoot double exposures. I made some very interesting pictures with double exposures. If anyone knows a way to do this let me know.
One of my digital cameras will do double exposures or triple if you wish.

I have shot lots of Kodachrome in my years. It will be missed.
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YouTube - Kodachrome - Paul Simon
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This is indeed the end of an era. I have many, many slides on Kodachrome... at least I can still enjoy them whenever I like. Azflycaster, thanks for the YouTube link... I hadn't seen that before! I loved it!!
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This is indeed the end of an era. I have many, many slides on Kodachrome... at least I can still enjoy them whenever I like.
Yup....I, too, have tons of Kodachrome and Ektachrome slides, and B&W 116 film negatives from my grandparents. As I was scanning these, I had time to think about digital and how we store these photos. My grandparents' 116 negatives were hidden away in a metal matchbox in the back of their closet, then later in my mother's closet. I wonder, if they had been using digital, would I have been able these views into my past.

Thanks, Richard, for the link to Paul Simon's prediction.
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I have to say that was well done. And I don't agree that everything looks better in color. Ansel Adams did wonders with black and white.
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