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11-14-2009, 03:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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Whale of a deal - '56 Flying Cloud
After a year searching for parts for the 64 globetrotter I finally came to the realization that it was too far gone to salvage (it had been rolled into a mountain side and severe structual damage and cosmetic issues) and while helping a fellow airstreamer find parts he informed me he knew where there 5 13 panel trailers.
He led me to believe I might be able to buy one and I couldn't pass up a two for one sale (for $2200 I got both).
One is a 56 Flying Cloud, the other is a 56 Overlander, both gutted, but both whale tales. Both require full restorations, which should keep me out of trouble for awhile.
Here's the Flying Cloud
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
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Dometic 50 or parts
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11-14-2009, 03:44 PM
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Hey Wally,
Congrats on your new projects.
Kevin
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11-14-2009, 03:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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Interior Photos
Here's the interior as found. How in the world did they use a 24"x24" shower?
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Wally H.
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1962 Street side corner tub
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11-14-2009, 03:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2008
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OMG! What a deal! I believe that would be considered theft in most states!
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11-14-2009, 03:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
Walnut Cove
, North Carolina
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They have potential. LOL- have fun!
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The Silver Queen
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11-14-2009, 03:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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As with most restoration projects I'll have to start replacing floor since the back 6" are gone, and I presume the same is the case in the front. Floor by the door is nonexistant.
At one time the PO had a tire blow and destroyed the street side wheel well, which a local sheet metal shop has fabricated for me.
Someone scabbed on a makeshift black tank, and the toilet rust-mounted to it. There was homemade gray water tank that was 6"x6"x60" slung under the belly just behind the wheel wells. Neither will possibly work so after the floor is replaced I'll start the tank search.
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
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11-14-2009, 04:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
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I pulled the lower skins down, and removed the belly pan and the back 8' of floor.
There was some frame damage, but had a local welder come in and make the repairs.
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Wally H.
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11-14-2009, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
Here's the interior as found. How in the world did they use a 24"x24" shower?
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While I worked overseas I had a similar sized shower in my flat. It wasn't bad for me unless I dropped the soap. You had to open the door and step outside so you could reach in to retrieve the dropped item.
Kevin
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11-14-2009, 04:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
I pulled the lower skins down, and removed the belly pan and the back 8' of floor.
There was some frame damage, but had a local welder come in and make the repairs.
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Soooooo, dose this mean the overlander is for sale?
Bob
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11-14-2009, 04:12 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
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I got sidetracked after reading a forums post about paint removal and decided the pink had to go and that I'd like to not make that mess on the new floor.
I never thought I would work so hard and it would take so long to get rid of that many layers of paint. The latex wasn't so bad, but getting that last layer of Zolatone was a real
I tried every stripper in the book and finally read a post that recommended 0000 steel wool to get through the last of the Zolatone layer. I highly recommend the steel wool because it saved my bacon.
After two weeks and $200 worth of paint remover I decided that buying new lower metal will be by far the best way to go.
I really like the look of her tail in all natural. Don't you?
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Wally H.
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11-14-2009, 04:17 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Front end cap interior center panel
The front end cap, interior center panel is discolored, almost like a water marked hue/stain. I started trying to remove it with a cyclo with F7 (see photo) and only was able to break through it in a few places.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to address this? Should I try to sand it with 1600 WD paper or, high speed buffer, or should I pull rivets and replace the panel?
If replacement is the only option, do you think it can be done without pulling the whole end cap down?
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Wally H.
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11-14-2009, 04:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
Soooooo, dose this mean the overlander is for sale?
Bob
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My wife would kill me... Here's the Overlander
OLD TIMERS LOOK GOOD TOGETHER
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Wally H.
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1962 Street side corner tub
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11-14-2009, 04:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
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Webster Groves
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
My wife would kill me... Here's the Overlander
OLD TIMERS LOOK GOOD TOGETHER
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Beautiful! Single or double axil?
Bob
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11-14-2009, 04:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
My wife would kill me...
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Lets see ... she didn't kill you for BUYING them but would kill you for SELLING them? She have an available sister?
Bob
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11-14-2009, 04:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 27' Safari
Berkeley
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I think one of the attraction of the older units is no compound curves. Good with a shear and rivet gun?... you can maintain that skin forever. But from the looks of it, you don't have to, as it appears to be pristine! What a find X 2!
Congratulations!
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11-14-2009, 05:21 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
Beautiful! Single or double axil?
Bob
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The Overlander is a double axle trailer and I've been told it had a center bath.The Overlander project isn't going to happen any time soon. It was such a good buy that I couldn't pass it up. It has much better metal than the Flying Cloud, but absolutely no interior. I plan to gather stuff for it as I work on the Cloud.
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
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11-14-2009, 05:27 PM
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1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
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Congrats on a pair of great finds, Wally. Looks like you've got quite a bit to work with there.
I too had some bad spots on my inside endcap. Tried every grade of Nuvite and worked and worked at it and just couldn't get it. I did finally go to a series of WD paper, starting at 400 and going up. Still not perfect, but I'm happy with it now and would do it again that way.
And I agree, stripping the old Zolatone is just a bear.
steve
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11-14-2009, 05:41 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeBop
I think one of the attraction of the older units is no compound curves. Good with a shear and rivet gun?... you can maintain that skin forever. But from the looks of it, you don't have to, as it appears to be pristine! What a find X 2!
Congratulations!
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On our last trip to Northern CA. to see my 96 year old Dad, My wife, Janni spotted a 13 panel trailer and that was the start of our search. She loved all the panels. I looked through the vintage photo archives and decided I wanted a whale tail. So when I found them I didn't sleep much until they were both back at the barn
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Wally H.
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11-14-2009, 05:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Wally'd be much further if he wasn't over here helping as the "bucker" for my panel replacement. I should also mention he's one heck of a good wheelbarrow operator.
Was a great find, the pictures don't do it justice. Wish my paint stripping was going that well/fast. Hoping he'll come give me lessons
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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11-14-2009, 05:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
The Overlander is a double axle trailer and I've been told it had a center bath.The Overlander project isn't going to happen any time soon. It was such a good buy that I couldn't pass it up. It has much better metal than the Flying Cloud, but absolutely no interior. I plan to gather stuff for it as I work on the Cloud.
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K ... watching with vulture eyes ...
Bob
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