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11-14-2009, 06:31 PM
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#21
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3 Rivet Member
1986 Argosy
Denver
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 118
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
Lets see ... she didn't kill you for BUYING them but would kill you for SELLING them? She have an available sister?
Bob
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I so second that one!!!!
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11-15-2009, 07:57 PM
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#22
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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After working on the interior paint removal for a couple of weeks I got back to working on the frame. I thought that scraping rust was a pain until I started applying the POR-15. The POR-15 is great stuff, but one doesn't realize how many hard to get at areas there are on a frame and how tough it is to keep the stuff from dripping onto you as you crawl around in the dirt under the trailer. I thought I had protected myself from the POR-15 until I removed my coveralls and found three black spots (dime size) on my T shirt. You guessed it, I also have three nice black spots on my chest
Question... Is there a need to put a thin layer of insulation or some other material between the frame and the plywood to cushion the two. Did the factory just use the plywood to hold the insulation in place when they were putting a trailer together?
I plan to start replacing the first 4' of floor tomorrow so let me know about the cushion between wood and metal.
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
range or parts
Dometic 50 or parts
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11-15-2009, 08:00 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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It was my perception that the insulation was set over the top to make installation easier not anything as far as the plywood to frame joints.
Frame looks great!
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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11-15-2009, 10:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Yes, mine had it over the rails.. Yes, AS did it originally... No, I don't think it's a good idea... all the rust on my frames was from the insulation holding the moisture against the frame rails under the wood... even if the wood looked ok, some of my crossmembers turned to dust due to the rust there.. in summary... don't do it!
Nice framework by the way... can we see pics of the other trailer too?
Marc
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11-15-2009, 10:07 PM
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#25
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Nowhere
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 573
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
Question... Is there a need to put a thin layer of insulation or some other material between the frame and the plywood to cushion the two. Did the factory just use the plywood to hold the insulation in place when they were putting a trailer together?
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Wally, you've got a couple of very nice looking trailers. I'm with XBob2 watching with envy. As far as the cushion between the frame and the plywood, I'm not sure if it's needed, but I'm planning on using foam that is used in construction between foundations and the sill plate as a vapor barrier between the steel and the plywood. A buddy of mine who is working on my trailer restoration used this on his trailer, and it seems like a good idea. Airstream's old method of putting the insulation on over the frame seemed to have simply trapped a bunch of moisture on the top edge of the frame and caused a lot of rust. [On edit, I was writing my response when Marc posted his and I see he had the same thought about the rust.]
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11-15-2009, 11:03 PM
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#26
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
Yes, mine had it over the rails.. Yes, AS did it originally... No, I don't think it's a good idea... all the rust on my frames was from the insulation holding the moisture against the frame rails under the wood... even if the wood looked ok, some of my crossmembers turned to dust due to the rust there.. in summary... don't do it!
Nice framework by the way... can we see pics of the other trailer too?
Marc
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Thanks for the great advise.
Here are a couple of photos of the Overlander. I sure hope you guys don't think I have the energy that Scott Goranson has. I'm almost old enough to be his father I'll be working on the Flying Cloud first and will be collecting stuff for it's big brother. My wife was O.K. with the second trailer, but the little guy must be finished before I work on the other.
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
range or parts
Dometic 50 or parts
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11-16-2009, 08:00 AM
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#27
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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I love them both, great finds! I'm looking forward to (many years) of watching your trailer restorations!
-Marcus
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11-16-2009, 09:12 AM
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#28
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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Nice warm and fuzzy boy meets trailer(s) story... Kinda brought tears to my eyes witnessing the wrath of time though, thanks for posting.
About the plywood to steel interface, I had wood rotted six feet into the trailer where water had wicked above the frame rails - but that doesn't mean not to place some thermal break in between. And being vague is intentional, I slapped plywood back onto bare metal but I was only doing the back sheet, so I don't have a product in mind to suggest....
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The days are short and the night is long and the stars go tumbling by.. . ~Airstream~
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11-16-2009, 09:48 AM
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#29
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
I love them both, great finds! I'm looking forward to (many years) of watching your trailer restorations!
-Marcus
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YEARS
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
range or parts
Dometic 50 or parts
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11-16-2009, 10:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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When Oppertunity Knocks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wabbiteer
Nice warm and fuzzy boy meets trailer(s) story..
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No, No..Wabbiteer .It should have been " Heartless Old Fart talks another Sweet Old Lady out of her trailer!
In all honesty I was on a parts search and the person in Seattle didn't have what I was looking for, but knew a lady that was going to send her 67 Overlander to the wrecking yard. So what would you have done? There was room next to the old barn, so I made a quick trip over the mountain and drug it home. It was free, so I couldn't let it go to waste. Now what do I do?
Maybe a $5.00 raffle or the BEST OFFER?
P.S....The 67 Ambassador next to it was a $600.00 find. It is camp ready.
My friend Mike,the owner of the barn, bought it. My friends think I need intervention or AA...Airstream Anonymous. Scott just rolls his eyes
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
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Dometic 50 or parts
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11-16-2009, 07:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Wally I'd suggest trading material there, see if someone needs a new project, or some donor panels and can help you trade for the window parts etc you need. There are other airstreamers on here sick enough to own multiple units that may have extra parts laying around, plus you saved it from the scrap pile, at least for now.
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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11-16-2009, 08:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,436
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I don't know if you would call us owners "sick", maybe aafflicted??? I have 4 myself: a '97 30' Excella 1000, a '73 27' Overlander, a '75 Argosy 24' and a 73 Argosy 22'. And...I know where there is 68 Overlander for sale. Wife said no more right now.
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WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
No amount of time will erase the memory of a great dog.
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11-16-2009, 08:42 PM
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#33
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwoodtx
I know where there is 68 Overlander for sale. Wife said no more right now.
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You need to get your priorities straight here!
Bob
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11-16-2009, 09:58 PM
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#34
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
You need to get your priorities straight here!
Bob
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If Only Wally's Wife's sister was still single right?
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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11-17-2009, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,436
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Amen!!
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Bruce
WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
No amount of time will erase the memory of a great dog.
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11-17-2009, 07:27 PM
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#36
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyrc
YEARS
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Oh come on, you've spent some time around here. You knew what you were getting into!
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11-20-2009, 07:55 PM
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#37
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Ok Wally, the "cat lady" of stray airstreams.... tell everyone about what you just drug home....
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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11-20-2009, 08:01 PM
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#38
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
Posts: 4,360
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Wally??? We're all waiting to hear what you brought home.
Brad
FF
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I'm haunted by aluminum.
Charter Member of the 4 Corners Unit.
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11-20-2009, 08:11 PM
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#39
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3 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1960 24' Tradewind
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 202
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It's just a little old two wheeler.
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Wally H.
Parts needed
1962 Street side corner tub
range or parts
Dometic 50 or parts
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11-20-2009, 09:19 PM
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#40
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Don't make me post pictures....
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Scott & Megan
VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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