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Old 06-30-2010, 10:40 AM   #15
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It's a 1958 Flying Cloud . . .

Hi All:

For those who believe the Ohio factory misidentified Ron's 1958 trailer by (i) giving it a serial number from the mid-range of 1958 Ohio-built Flying Cloud serial numbers and (ii) by riveting a Flying Cloud name plate on it, here's more evidence of their carelessness. A shown below, they also misprinted their own sales literature!

It's obvious the Ohio factory could not distinguish a Flying Cloud from a Caravanner even as it built them. What did the factory know back then? Nothing! It's also amazing how wide spread and consistent that lack of knowledge was, covering both production and sales.

Unlike the Ohio factory that actually built this trailer back in the dark ages of 1958, we are blessed with 52 years of hindsight that allows us to see their mistakes for what they are. All this just goes to show one cannot rely on an original VIN plate, on an original riveted name plate, or even on contemporary sales literature to properly identify vintage Airstreams. They are nothing but a string of errors . . .

Thankfully we have the internet to provide all the right answers, so we can disregard what is right before our eyes. The GPS also provides this benefit, so we no longer have to pay attention to the deteriorating condition or wrong direction of the roads we travel. Its such a relief that all the answers are in the air and not directly in front of us!

And if you believe that, I have a virtual bridge I just listed on ePay . . .

As hard as we try to ignore reality, sometimes the right answer is plain in front is us. Partial knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I'll give the Ohio factory the benefit of the doubt on Ron's trailer and say it they correctly serial numbered and named it a Flying Cloud.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:01 AM   #16
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And we Caravanner types don't have a hatch in the rear--ours is on the side under our side mounted berth.

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Old 06-30-2010, 08:19 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by CanoeStream View Post
Regarding the 'O' or 'I' (International) prefix in these 1950s VINs -- the 'O' was just a placeholder and had no significance. It would be changed to 'I' with the Int'l package which gave more mobility -- 12v coach power, onboard water and some other traveling amenities IIRC.
I had half a correct (but ultimately incorrect) idea running... and thank you to Fred Coldwell for his gentlemanly message. If I may correct the record:
Originally Posted by 47WeeWind
The California factory began using 4 digit serial numbers in 1947. When the Ohio factory opened in 1953, it initially used California factory serial number plates because its own had not yet been printed. To distinguish the 4 digit Ohio seral numbers from the 4 digit California serial numbers, all Ohio serial numbers from 1953 to ~1958 were given a "O" prefix denoting "Ohio".

This convention was dropped in later 1958 when the factories began using longer serial numbers with different arrangements for each factory. The "O" was a place holder in the 60's but had independent significance in the 50s.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:29 PM   #18
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My airstream can without a title. After much work and time with the State of Florida I gave up. Broadway Title, check it out on the internet, from Alabama I think. Within 10 days I have a title in hand and with in a few hours I had a new Florida title.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:48 PM   #19
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Used Broadway title here, guy was great, worked flawlessly, was about $300 but no headaches, no waiting periods, no bonds or red tape...

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