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09-14-2016, 01:36 PM
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#81
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
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What is that in front of the tire? Drain, stabilizer down? Very low! If that is is the sewer drain, wow!
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09-14-2016, 03:19 PM
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#82
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Wow!
98% sure that is the drain and the storage tube just forward of it. [edit -- viewed on my 15" laptop with the attachment opened up -- pretty clear IMO]
Could they make it any lower?
Even a small boulder sticking up is going to do some damage as the boondocker tries to navigate into certain sites.
"No Pass" on BC2!
PS -- thanks for the links and image SilverGate.
PS2 -- Look under the streetside rear quarter -- there is that anti-tip protrusion sticking down, I thought I had seen, like a soft-bottomed "V". That is gonna get sheared off in no time IMO!
PS3 -- At least one photo in the slide show does not show any sewer drain, perhaps for the basic model with a Marine-type self-contained head? Or did they use progress photos which do not show the finished product? TBD!
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09-14-2016, 03:26 PM
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#83
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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Does Airstream ever do any consumer testing before releasing a trailer to the public? It seems that the too low sewer drain, etc. would have been identified and eliminated prior to production had they done so. Looking at it, it seems so obvious I'm surprised they let it out the door.
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09-14-2016, 08:04 PM
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#84
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New Member
Elkton
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 1
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Saw one at the Hershey RV show today. Wish I had seen this about the drain to check it out. The back windows did look to be just vent windows, which is disappointing. Unfortunately, they did not have either tent.
It does seem quite nice.
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09-14-2016, 08:55 PM
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#85
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkf
Saw one at the Hershey RV show today. Wish I had seen this about the drain to check it out. The back windows did look to be just vent windows, which is disappointing. Unfortunately, they did not have either tent.
It does seem quite nice.
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09-14-2016, 08:59 PM
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#86
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
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09-15-2016, 02:02 AM
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#87
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks for the link. The photo in the middle of the article shows the sewer dump quite clearly:
http://newatlas.com/airstream-baseca...=true#picture5
and it sure looks low . . .
From the article:
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Airstream's CEO and president Bob Wheeler puts it like this:
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"All you need to do is head out and decide whether to go right or left at the end of your driveway."
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Just make sure you don't turn too sharp to the left as you leave the driveway, especially if the curbing at the street is fairly high.
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09-15-2016, 03:43 AM
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#88
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,140
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But picture, I think 11, clearly shows a protective cover with 2 latches. It looks like it would be latched closed for travel.
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09-15-2016, 04:20 AM
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#89
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaLevel
But picture, I think 11, clearly shows a protective cover with 2 latches. It looks like it would be latched closed for travel.
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Maybe, but then why show side views with it on the road with that bulky assortment hanging down? Also, where is the storage tube in the "clean" side view?
That clean side view is either a progress print of an incomplete Basecamp, or maybe a stripped down basic version without options. Let's look at the Specs page and see what is Standard and what is Optional.
Edit -- the features page says the China Toilet is standard FWIW.
https://www.airstream.com/travel-tra...camp/features/
Hopefully the dealers can chime in here.
PS2 -- SeaLevel, the hatch with two clasps ["protective cover"] is ALSO visible in the top photo which shows the bulky drain assembly hanging way down, so guessing the electrical shore power cord is inside that hatch? TBD.
PS3 -- In the clean side shot, there is no hint of the black/grey holding tank which is visible in many of the other shots from both sides IMO. I am increasingly thinking this side shot from the street side was taken during the design and prototype phase of this project, and may not be a final version. IMO
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09-15-2016, 04:33 AM
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#90
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Dealers -- Please clarify the sewer drain questions being discussed, when you can. Photos with a tape measure showing ground clearance would be helpful. Does the entire bulky assemblage pivot up into the body, to be hidden behind that small door? Or is the "clean"'side photo of an incomplete trailer, a "progress print" if you will?
Please also detail the waste water holding tank location, and it's apparent absence from the "clean" side shot in which there is no sewer dump assembly hanging down in front of the street side tire.
Thanks,
Peter
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Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
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Not sure on the exact date, but our demo (which will also be our first) should be here next week.
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Originally Posted by ellenbelle
Also, regarding the waste pipe near the ground... I can't imagine that is so. They made a big deal of telling us that the design has taken into account that the Basecamp will be going over rough terrain (thus the slight upturn in the back, for going up steepish hills). It's probably a camera angle...
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09-15-2016, 04:55 AM
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#91
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 571
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Maybe AS will offer their usual fall discounts?
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09-15-2016, 05:50 AM
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#92
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
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If it has a cassette toilet there would not be a normal black tank, only a tank probably serviced through outside.
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09-15-2016, 06:44 AM
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#93
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
, Ohio
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The pictures from the west dealer showed a cassette toilet, maybe a regular one is an option. I'd go with the cassette if it helped ground clearance.
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09-15-2016, 07:03 AM
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#94
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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09-15-2016, 07:20 AM
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#95
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks Michael, that video is not on their YouTube channel yet, but should be soon IMO:
https://www.youtube.com/user/colonialairstream
Not a member of FaceBook here . . .
Peter
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09-15-2016, 07:26 AM
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#96
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
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Is this the video where he mentions a porcelain toilet and tanks? If so, why did the pictures from the dealer out west show a cassette toilet?
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09-15-2016, 02:18 PM
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#97
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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The video Michael posted works on my iPad. Patrick says it will be posted on their YouTube site as soon as possible.
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09-16-2016, 09:20 AM
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#98
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Had a canned response from the local dealer from entering the information to download the brochure.
Will be interesting to see how long these initial units sit on the dealer lots.
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09-17-2016, 10:47 AM
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#99
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Wondering if the demo models have arrived at any of the dealers yet?
No new videos on Colonial's YouTube site yet -- probably after the Hershey show next week?
Their FB video on the Basecamp works now from this page:
https://www.facebook.com/Colonial.Airstream/?fref=nf
but the sound is inconsistent here FWIW. [down the page a bit]
Thanks,
Peter
Quote:
Originally Posted by denver133
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Local dealer here in Denver quoted me a fully loaded at $40k and will have one hopefully by this upcoming weekend.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
Not sure on the exact date, but our demo (which will also be our first) should be here next week.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
Desert Autoplex in Mesa says they will have a total initial allocation of nine units not including the "Demo".
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrSig
Yup, I was there Saturday, they don't have it in yet, but will be getting it in soon. Can't wait to see it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ellenbelle
Here on the central coast we will also be getting our demo in at the end of the week and we apparently have six coming to each store (we have two locations). I believe they have been ordered with all the options as well, but won't know that for sure til we see them.
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09-17-2016, 05:31 PM
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#100
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New Member
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Bethany Beach
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Can a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited w 3500# capacity handle the BC?
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