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Old 07-09-2018, 11:26 AM   #379
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. . . Editorial note to Airstream – fix the real problem – don’t add band aids.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:03 PM   #380
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Hi Basecamp fans,
Roc Ingersol here reporting on refrigerator madness. LOL.
Anyways, I posted several months ago much temperature data/etc. on the refrigerator performance out here in the desert southwest. And the conclusion which I already knew is that the heat load on refrigerator due to poor placement, not proper packaging volume around the unit and too large of refrigerator for the current location, the refrigerator will NOT stay below 45F in 85 – 110F ambient temperatures even with the TSB 172 fix in place.Also, if by chance the refrigerator is at 36F in partial shade, once opened, the temperature cannot recover to safe temperature due to the above factors.
Anyways, I said I was going to replace the unit with a 12V/120V compressor refrigerator, which I did so.
I replaced the unit with an Engel 40 QT refrigerator/freezer combination unit – I can report out as I have camped out twice in 100+ temperatures in full sun and the refrigerator section stays at 36F or lower with controls and the freezer is rock solid cold at about 15F. The refrigerator coupled with the two AGM batteries and the solar panels hardly draws much electricity overnight.Absolutely NO issue with battery drain and running lights/etc.
We decided not to install a left/right hinge 12v fridge as it provide poor ergonomics reaching into the unit so we installed a top lift unit as it is easier to remove items; and also, we can remove the unit and put into our truck and plug into 12v socket if we decide to leave the basecamp for a few days. Also, the unit is elevated for toe clearance and there is plenty of room to remove items from under the sink.I used a Black forest cargo slider with the Engel unit.
I have attached pictures for your interest.
Just for your information, I heavily modified the internal venting and water management where the refrigerator is located. I also removed the black propane cover as I installed 20# tanks, fabricated an aluminum shield, and added drop rails to the exterior (see pictures).
An additional fyi, the floor underneath the refrigerator has a drain – yes a drain – to theoretically drain water if water enters from the front vents – this is stupid. Editorial note to Airstream – fix the real problem – don’t add band aids.But what I have found as water enters through the front vents, collects on the floor it moves across aluminum sheet metal, stapled, to the floor.The staples need to be sealed with silicone so water can translate to the drain in the compartment.What actually happens, is water also seeps into the staple holes and seeps underneath the wood out to the exterior of the floor in front of the refrigerator.Anyways, thought you should know.
So, I am very happy now with the basecamp and with this forum as I think have prevented all the issues folks have been reporting before problems occur.
Best Regards,
Roc Ingersol

As much as I feel we should not have to resort to after-market fixes, I really like yours. Functional and versatile. Two qualities I like.


Great job!
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:46 PM   #381
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Great set up!! I love the idea of its portability too. Something we may consider down the road, just not quite ready to spend the money. I really think you have a winner with this one
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:44 PM   #382
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Good Evening Basecamp Forum!

Yes, please include my Basecamp story into the refer-madness! Of course my refer doesn't get safely cool at any temperature on propane or on electricity....It only gets coolish....

I just bought the little battery operated fan for the inside of the refer and will test it this weekend....but something tells me I am going to keep tugging my Igloo cooler around in my $37,000 2018 Basecamp from Airstream because they don't appear to be wanting to make any changes and I am reluctant to put another $1000 into it (it is a matter of principle, or stupid and stubborn pride). Having the cooler on the floor eats up that tiny space, but beats salmonella I suppose.

See you in the forum!

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Old 07-12-2018, 09:38 AM   #383
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Hi all, I may have a simple fix!

I have a 2017 Basecamp and I've been so frustrated with the refrigerator not cooling on gas and our food spoiling.

I had the fix of installing the extra fan and it didn't make any difference.

I called Airstream yesterday and talked to a tech and I think he may have solved the problem.

Usually when we go out we plug or Airstream in about 24 hours and turn on the refrigerator before we leave for a trip. I was assuming since the refrigerator was set to Auto that it would automatically switch to the gas. Well according to the tech the refrigerator may not be switching to the gas when we unplug... maybe the auto button is not working or the refrigerator is only checking for electric or gas when you turn it on. So when we unplugged, it wasn't switching to gas and it was turning off. The freezer would stay cool probably because its enclosed with it's own door.

The tech said to manually take it off auto and put it on gas and then it will switch to the gas. I did a test last night on gas only and the refrigerator section was the coldest it has ever been. It got down to 30 deg.

I hope this simple fix works but still need to test it on a hot day.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:01 AM   #384
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Welcome to the Forum TracieW!

Great first post. Seems too easy to be the problem, but lets see what other basecamper's say. I'm watching with interest.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:17 AM   #385
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The tech said to manually take it off auto and put it on gas and then it will switch to the gas. I did a test last night on gas only and the refrigerator section was the coldest it has ever been. It got down to 30 deg.
We live in the SW and are picking ours up from storage on Saturday to prep for a trip the following week. Already I was planning on getting the fridge down to temp on electric and testing everything. With this new information I'll add this to the testing as well. <crosses fingers>
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:59 AM   #386
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Very nice work Roc. Quite impressive. I am terrified to open up and see what is going on behind the fridge because I know with 100% certainty water drains from the front directly onto the top Dometic vent. There should be a small gutter to redirect the water. Any pics from the inside?
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Old 07-29-2018, 06:13 PM   #387
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Hi all, I may have a simple fix!
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I hope this simple fix works but still need to test it on a hot day.
Wondering if you have had a chance to test your fix during a hot spell?

Thanks,

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Old 07-30-2018, 12:30 AM   #388
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My fridge also doesn’t work on propane and I’ve had the recall work (additional fan etc) done by my dealer. It does work fine on shore power.
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:10 AM   #389
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TracieW, I tried your fix this weekend and our fridge stayed cool on propane all weekend. I should note that we were camping along the coast where the high only reached 70 degrees at most so I'll have to try it again next time.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:13 PM   #390
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Went on a 4 day trip last week to the coast. During our 7 hour drive, temps started at 98 degrees, reached a high of 111 degrees, then dropped to 65 degrees once we reached the coastline. So it was mostly triple digits during our drive. We let the fridge run on propane due to the heat and duration of the drive. On arrival, our milk and yogurt and cooked meats were cool/cold enough. We then plugged in to shore power. When I checked our vegetables the next day, the fridge had frozen our baby carrots and our green beans (overnight outdoor temps were 60 degrees). Nothing spoiled or went sour during our 4 days.

So while the our fridge does cool, it struggles during the heat and overchills during the cold weather.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:05 AM   #391
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Carrots and snap peas always seem to freeze first!
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:55 PM   #392
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Fix diesnt work

I tested my Basecamp in my driveway today. High today was 90 deg. and the coldest the refrigerator got was 45 deg.
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