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Old 12-11-2017, 08:41 AM   #1
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Big Red Numbers Installation

Installing the “Big Red Numbers” on a Base Camp. If you have installed the numbers for the Wally Byam Airstream Club I would appreciate any suggestions.
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:57 AM   #2
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Decal Placement

I presume that the numbers are individual decals.? Either way, the process is essentially the same. Get some removable masking tape and put a strip horiontally where you want the bottom of the characters to be. Then measure to a known location (like a seam) on each side to determine the center line of your unit and mark that on the tape. Next, lay out the characters with their backing sheet still attached on a table and find the center line of the copy. From that point, you can measue and mark on the tape where each character should go.
If the numbers are supplied on a backliner with a removable premask on top (as they should be) using the hinge method will be helpful. You can Google "hinge method for decals" and probably find a few videos on the subject. It's not rocket science. Good luck!

PS: I have not applied Wally club decals but have been in the decal and graphics business for 40 years. I did not sleep in a Holiday Inn either!
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:14 AM   #3
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Another tip I can suggest is to NOT attach them on a windy day if you are doing this outside. I learned this lesson the hard way!
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:51 AM   #4
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What John said. Maybe they have changed but I've done this twice, as recently as two years ago. Mine were conventional decals, without a front sheet. I marked them as John suggested, and used a solution of water and a few drops of Dawn to spray on the trailer. Keep everything wet and squeegee the air bubbles out as you position the numbers. Here's a link:
http://wbcci.org/component/jdownload...ig-red-numbers

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Old 12-11-2017, 11:09 AM   #5
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I presume that the numbers are individual decals.? Either way, the process is essentially the same. Get some removable masking tape and put a strip horiontally where you want the bottom of the characters to be. Then measure to a known location (like a seam) on each side to determine the center line of your unit and mark that on the tape. Next, lay out the characters with their backing sheet still attached on a table and find the center line of the copy. From that point, you can measue and mark on the tape where each character should go.
If the numbers are supplied on a backliner with a removable premask on top (as they should be) using the hinge method will be helpful. You can Google "hinge method for decals" and probably find a few videos on the subject. It's not rocket science. Good luck!

PS: I have not applied Wally club decals but have been in the decal and graphics business for 40 years. I did not sleep in a Holiday Inn either!
I am unsure your tape line is the correct way
The numbers 3, 8, 0 should be a bit higher
So check carefully
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Old 12-11-2017, 12:08 PM   #6
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I stuck mine on my front and back windows. Those numbers tend to etch themselves on the aluminum over time.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:33 PM   #7
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I maybe wrong (wife will tell you that's pretty often) but there may be a security issue with those big red, and blue, numbers.. do you want just anyone to see you're away from home?
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:44 PM   #8
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If someone is motivated enough it's easier to get your name and address from your license plates than from your WBCCI number. I don't even give this a thought. Besides, outside of this community most people have no clue what the number represents. So put the number on or don't it's your choice.
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Old 12-11-2017, 02:26 PM   #9
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I can attest to the numbers etching the aluminum over time. Even though we have the same number that was issued in the early 70's I've removed the old numbers and I am going to put our WBCCI number on a piece of lexan and display it behind a window or attached to the A-frame during rallies. I will end up buffing out the area the numbers were which will look weird since it would only be that part of the trailer and then I will end up buffing / polishing the whole trailer - it's like painting one room in your house.
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To apply the loose-shipped numbers supplied from WBCCI the trick is a teaspoon of dish soap mixed with water in a good sized spray bottle.

Mark a straight line for the bottom of the numbers with tape or pencil, and tape the numbers where you are happy with them.

Make a few small index marks with a pencil so you can align the numbers later.


Working on one number at a time, spray copious amounts of the soap/water solution on the trailer surface and carefully peel the backing off a single number.

DO NOT allow the number to stick to itself, it is a fatal error. Slide it onto the wet trailer surface as you peel.

Keeping the surface wet is the trick. One can slide the number around to get it in the right spot if things are kept wet. If things get sticky, lift an edge and spray more solution.

Keep it wet.

Use the index marks to align the number.

When you are happy, use your fingers and more solution to work the bubbles out. Be careful, the number will slide if you work to much.

Apply the remaining numbers the same way.

After a few minutes, one can work out any remaining bubbles with a bit more pressure and a paper towel.

The soap and water will dry in a few hours and you are done.


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Old 12-11-2017, 04:30 PM   #11
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A point of info. We recently added a rear view camera. The location that worked best blocked the center clearance light. Not a very good idea and might be illegal, although I can't believe an officer would write a ticket for that level of infraction. Our solution was to locate the camera in the middle of a red number. Depending on your number, that might not work. So, consider carefully where you locate the numbers. Pat
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When I bought my AS motorhome in 2015, the curved front made it very difficult to get access to the area above the windshield. Instead I mounted the numbers on a clear piece of plastic Lucite and it sits inside the front windshield. Numbers on the rear were mounted high under the rear camera.

When I went to the Airstream Rally in Michigan last summer, I same many of the trailer owners had done something similar on the front by mounting on the windows or placing them inside. Almost everyone had numbers on the rear mounted above rear window.
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Old 12-11-2017, 07:01 PM   #13
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Installing the “Big Red Numbers” on a Base Camp. If you have installed the numbers for the Wally Byam Airstream Club I would appreciate any suggestions.
Another forum member's solution was to have smaller numbers custom cut to fit the smaller space on the Base camp.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...nt-148544.html
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Old 12-11-2017, 07:18 PM   #14
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I just had my sign shop put my numbers on a rectangular piece of aluminum colored vinyl. No ghosts that way. Two large sets for the end caps and two small sets for the top of the front curbside and roadside windows. This makes it easier to find our trailer in a long line at a rally. I have to change them out every 7 or 8 seasons in the
TX sun. Wash off the area with rubbing alcohol and apply with plenty of lightly soapy water
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