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Old 10-06-2017, 09:53 PM   #743
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I have heard people talking about quiet computer fans but not sure what to buy. We are still waiting to pick ours up after the fix to see but it would be great to know if we have to make a switch what to look for.


It depends on the size they have. Common sizes are 90mm or 120mm. Sometimes you need to look at old one.

Good brands are Silenx and Noctua.

Here is the 90mm one I bought. I think I got them at Newegg or Walmart for $15. For my 2017 23D, it was a simple snap in replacement.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 10-06-2017, 11:02 PM   #744
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The fridge on propane finally cooled and started freezing the food in the refrigerator section. The fans are loud but the noise inside the trailer is intolerable. High pitched whining/ buzzing and it never stops. . The noise from the fans was outside and was loud, but not the same as inside. Needed earplugs and a pillow around my head to sleep. This is not a solution AIRSTREAM. I am not accepting this and I’m not installing anything myself. The fridge should be on the side with unobstructed ventilation like every other trailer. AIRSTREAM NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A WORKABLE SOLUTION, NOT A WORKAROUND.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:09 AM   #745
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Sparkle, have you read the following Simple Survey thread on the BC's fridge problems? It has many posts going back to early summer, suggesting that a more extensive fix was in order:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ne-169937.html

For instance, Post #43 from 7/27/17:

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Needs a total redesign to get the fridge to one side, and ideally have a flue through the roof.
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The entire Simple Survey thread is worth a good read, in part for BBorzell's excellent data points starting at Post #9, as well as discussions of class action litigation or a Thor shareholders' suit to resolve this SNAFU.

Good luck to all.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:20 AM   #746
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I wonder whether thereís a danfoss compressor-based fridge that would fit in the same spot. Maybe from Vitrifrigo, or Snowmaster? They donít generate the same volumes of heat, though they draw more current than an absorption fridge. OTOH, maybe they donít draw more current than an absorption fridge plus a fleet of noisy fans.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:59 AM   #747
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It depends on the size they have. Common sizes are 90mm or 120mm. Sometimes you need to look at old one.

Good brands are Silenx and Noctua.

Here is the 90mm one I bought. I think I got them at Newegg or Walmart for $15. For my 2017 23D, it was a simple snap in replacement.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Before you start swapping out fans, first figure out if the fix works. Quiet fans are quiet because they move less air and accept less back pressure compared to "industrial" fans. Who knows what AS used (a picture or part number would help). Cutting back on the air may not be a good idea.....

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Old 10-07-2017, 09:43 AM   #748
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These fans I bought and installed in our 23D.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I made a baffle plate for the upper vent to block it off except for the fans opening forcing the air to come in the bottom vent. I also then switched to a Ventrifrigo refrigerator (model DP150I) that has separate freezer door and just over 5 cu ft total storage). No fan noise and the fans are wired to only operate when the compressor is operational.

The 23D does have five 100 watt solar panels and a 300 amp-hour lithium battery.
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The Simple Survey thread [linked earlier] has quite a bit of discussion about alternative fridges, fans, baffles and so forth:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ne-169937.html

Not sure why we have to reinvent the wheel here, in this more general Basecamp Issues thread?



PS -- Starting with your Post #79 on that thread, there is a line of questions, alternatives and suggestions in the following 170 +/- posts.

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We installed the Vitrifrigo marine DP150iL in our 2015 23D and the DP2600 in our 2014 Classic.
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:31 AM   #750
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Before you start swapping out fans, first figure out if the fix works. Quiet fans are quiet because they move less air and accept less back pressure compared to "industrial" fans. Who knows what AS used (a picture or part number would help). Cutting back on the air may not be a good idea.....



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I was able to find quiet fans that move more air than the crappy factory fans.

Itís easy as each fan has its ratings. There is no excuse for AS to use these Chinese crap Louis fans.

As I stated in my post, if the fan fix works from a cooling standpoint, donít throw the fix out just because of noise. The noise can be Addressed .

I didnít recommend just swapping out fans as a fix.... please read entire post before criticizing
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Old 10-08-2017, 08:40 AM   #751
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Rear Door Slamming Shut Simple Fix

Hello AS Basecampers,

I previously posted my idea for a main door 90 degree stop. I came up with another idea to hold open the rear door (just an idea, my first attempt, may not be final, etc...) that may work for you DIYer's or give you other ideas.

My prototype consists of using paracord, two key rings and a stainless clasp.

Please see pictures.

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Old 10-08-2017, 08:55 AM   #752
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Screen Door Fix/Upgrade

Hello AS Basecampers,

My unit had an issue of the screen door magnets not aligned properly with the screen door. I simply used stainless steel nuts and longer screws to correct the issue. Please see pictures. Hope this helps you DIYer's if you have the same problem.

Also, I put in a fix to prevent the screen door inadvertently from opening. I purchased a stainless steel marine cabinet latch from Amazon.com and consisted of screwing the latch to the screen door and riveting the flanged latch to the sidewall of the AS. The latch is on a spring. To open the screen door, I hold open the latch then open the door. When the door is closed the latch secures into position into the flange on the side wall.

Please see pictures.

Please do not attempt to rivet parts to the sidewall of the airstream if you do not have experience doing so. The receiving latch flange riveted to the sidewall in this case receives very little shear load so it is not an issue. The latch flange riveted to the sidewall does not fasten into any structural beam behind the sidewall (for those who want to know).

Again, I am just providing ideas if anyone is having the same issues - my ideas may not work for you.

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Old 10-08-2017, 09:16 AM   #753
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:37 AM   #754
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Just used my BC after the refrigerator recall ďsolution.Ē The news is not good. Got a new fridge, another battery and the fans. The fans run constantly on power or propane and they are LOUD. They also make the shroud over the propane tanks very hot. On propane, the noise inside the trailer is unbearable. There is a loud constant whining/buzzing sound that never abates. Earplugs didnít work. I had to sleep with a pillow around my head. Airstream Corporate are you listening? This is not a fix and is totally unacceptable!
I am not surprised to hear of the excessive noise. I had one of the first unsuccessful fan fixes and, with only one fan, we were unable to get a decent nightís sleep. I can only imagine the added noise from two loud fans.

This is the first I have heard about the fridge fix including replacing the fridge. Did Airstream or the dealer determine that your original fridge was faulty apart from the heat venting issue or has AS changed from the original fridge to another make/model?

If the latter, can you tell us what fridge is now in your Basecamp?
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Apart from the noisy fans, does the latest fix keep the contents at a safe temperature now?
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:24 PM   #756
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I was able to find quiet fans that move more air than the crappy factory fans.

It’s easy as each fan has its ratings. There is no excuse for AS to use these Chinese crap Louis fans.

As I stated in my post, if the fan fix works from a cooling standpoint, don’t throw the fix out just because of noise. The noise can be Addressed .

I didn’t recommend just swapping out fans as a fix.... please read entire post before criticizing
Hi

Weil it's easy if you have a chart of flow vs back pressure for each fan and know the operating environment ( = how many inches of water). It also helps if you can trust the data on the chart

Since that sort of data is rarely available, you really can't compare A to B ...

Just in case that isn't quite clear: A fan or blower has one air flow with no restrictions at all. As you restrict the channel (like with a baffle) the flow drops off. You are creating back pressure on the fan. The more back pressure, the less flow it's capable of. Centrifugal blowers exist because bladed fans get into trouble. Rotary screw compressors exist because blowers get into trouble at some point.

It's not a one dimensional problem ...

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