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04-09-2017, 08:37 AM
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#41
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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The 235/55r x 18 Goodyear Assurances are a curious tire. They are standard load but rated to carry 50 PSI.
The GVWR does not change from the 3500 it was previously because the GAWR is 3150. They assume at least 350 on the Ball.
The axle itself is a 3500 pound axle. If you did have some unusual loading requirement I'm certain the 235's would never be a problem at that weight.
If you did want the larger tires I'm sure there is room now. The reduced rolling resistance of the 235's might make up for the additional height.
Andy
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Andrew Thomson London, Ontario
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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04-09-2017, 11:38 AM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyNH
If I received an email with those spelling and grammar errors, I would think it was a phishing email from a foreign country. Seems their spell check is done at the factory.
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Not to mention the overtones of cheerleading for sales, and the exclamation points !!!
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04-09-2017, 12:40 PM
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#43
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Rivet Master
Lakes Region
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
The 235/55r x 18 Goodyear Assurances are a curious tire. They are standard load but rated to carry 50 PSI.
The GVWR does not change from the 3500 it was previously because the GAWR is 3150. They assume at least 350 on the Ball.
The axle itself is a 3500 pound axle. If you did have some unusual loading requirement I'm certain the 235's would never be a problem at that weight.
If you did want the larger tires I'm sure there is room now. The reduced rolling resistance of the 235's might make up for the additional height.
Andy
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Thanks for the clarification Andy. I noticed and was curious about the 51psi too.
To me, it seems a slippery slope to anchor the tightrope they're trying to walk.
Let's hope no one ever has to test it...
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04-10-2017, 02:53 PM
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#44
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1 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
1987 23' Sovereign
1962 22' Safari
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 17
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I'm posting this here so it's on both threads.
Originally Posted by dpmarshall View Post
I think we're going to contact Airstream directly - between the unrepaired leak and the axle recall - I'm losing patience, especially since our dealer is not giving us a timeline of when repairs will be complete. They blame it on Airstream and they may be right. But this is ridiculous. It's spent way more time at the dealer than with us and we overwhelmingly fit requirements for invoking the TX Lemon Law. If the leak/axle problems are a design flaw which cannot be adequately repaired, then it's time for a full refund or a new model.
If anyone has had any luck calling Airstream, I'd appreciate a response. So bummed.
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04-10-2017, 03:01 PM
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#45
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1 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
1987 23' Sovereign
1962 22' Safari
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 17
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We've now talked to Airstream and our truly nice repair person. Airstream told him he can release our Basecamp as long as we check for tire wear and if we notice any, to stop towing it immediately. That's a fairly crappy solution and I may be cynical, but I suspect it may have something to do with TX Lemon Law which states we have a claim if the unit has been in for repairs 30 days or longer within a 24 month period. We're at 26 days now since we received it in February. We are not done talking to Airstream about this.
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04-10-2017, 04:01 PM
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#46
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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The 50 PSI capacity on the Assurance is due to the 149 MPH speed rating.
Usually getting that kind of speed rating means it is a well made tire that will stay in balance and dissipate heat nicely. At a lower speed rating it could be an Extra Load tire. As it is a much better tire than a Marathon.
Andy
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"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot
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04-10-2017, 06:22 PM
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#47
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Garland
, Arkansas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 122
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04-10-2017, 07:42 PM
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#48
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4 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
Conway
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 340
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trae and Ann
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Thank you for this document. I wonder why it says: 'Transport Canada Recall Number 2017-151'. Has anyone gotten a letter from Airstream yet? Searching it and I found it under Transport Canada. I can not pull it up on the NHTSA website for the US.
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04-10-2017, 08:46 PM
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#49
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Garland
, Arkansas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 122
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04-11-2017, 10:01 PM
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#50
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1 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
SoCal
, California
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trae and Ann
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It's unbelievable they are allowing only 1.75 hours for this repair... That looks like a 3-4 hour job, minimum. Cutting of gas lines, gas pressure tests, tire mount and balance. Geeze, there asking for problems.
The clearance between the gas line and that bolt in the picture looks problematic to me without any protection for the gas line. I see that bolt rubbing on that gas line causing a leak in the near future.
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04-12-2017, 09:03 AM
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#51
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4 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
Conway
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 340
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe_Julie
It's unbelievable they are allowing only 1.75 hours for this repair... That looks like a 3-4 hour job, minimum. Cutting of gas lines, gas pressure tests, tire mount and balance. Geeze, there asking for problems.
The clearance between the gas line and that bolt in the picture looks problematic to me without any protection for the gas line. I see that bolt rubbing on that gas line causing a leak in the near future.
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I also wondered about that bolt being so close to the copper gas line, but it could be a camera angle. Something to look at before leaving the dealership after the axle replacement.
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04-17-2017, 03:45 PM
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#52
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
2018 16' Sport
Long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 105
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Got my recall letter today Woo hoo !
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04-17-2017, 04:03 PM
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#53
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4 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
Conway
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 340
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Recall letter
I got my recall letter today also. I called the number and got voice mail :-(
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04-17-2017, 04:19 PM
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#54
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
2018 16' Sport
Long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 105
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I got the voice mail too, so I called my dealer instead ...
Hope that works, saw them this morning when I dropped Luna Sea off for two unrelated issues ,(non axle). May we all be blessed with quick resolutions.
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04-17-2017, 04:54 PM
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#55
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New Member
2017 Basecamp
Winston salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KayakGa
According to my dealer, Southland (Ga), the new axles have been approved and will be shipped soon; I will get a new axle, 3 tires; it will raise height of trailer 2 " and tire is smaller; a 4 hr fix when axles arrive; Dealer has concerns about the large vents behind gas tank- as potential water problem- looking at the roof, a lot of rain can pour down that front wall in the middle where the vent is; so will see what happens. RV of the Year...
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The vents behind gas tanks do in FACT let water pour in! Woke up this morning, HOURS away from any dealer with an inch or more water on the floor! Not happy! Among 2 other leaks, really starting to question the quality I thought I was getting for forty thousand dollars!
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04-17-2017, 04:56 PM
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#56
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New Member
2017 Basecamp
Winston salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazgrass
Got my recall letter today Woo hoo !
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Still haven't received mine! Is this recall for all 2017 BC?! I ave # 28 so fairly early model
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04-17-2017, 05:11 PM
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#57
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
2018 16' Sport
Long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 105
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Tell me how to figure out what number I am and I'll tell you, where did you find the 28.
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04-17-2017, 06:09 PM
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#58
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3 Rivet Member
Colfax
, California
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 205
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Got the letter from AS today. Called their number as requested and got voice mail on the general customer service line. Odd that they didn't dedicate a line for this recall.
Went on to call my dealer. I'm scheduled to bring it in on the 25th. They asked me to leave it overnight and I reminded them that I am 100 miles away; not interested in a 400 mile effort. They agreed to do it as I wait. AS says it should be 2 hours.
New axle, 2 new "low profile" tires/wheels and new "low profile" spare. Service manager has no info on changes in load capacity or ground clearance. She will look into that info and have it when I show up.
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04-17-2017, 07:05 PM
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#59
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2 Rivet Member
2011 19' Victorinox
2017 Basecamp
Lacey
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BaseCamp_28
The vents behind gas tanks do in FACT let water pour in! Woke up this morning, HOURS away from any dealer with an inch or more water on the floor! Not happy! Among 2 other leaks, really starting to question the quality I thought I was getting for forty thousand dollars!
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BC28,
That is the same issue that I had/am having. They know that water will come in through the vents; however, it is supposed to be contained and drain out through some holes. They need to figure out a better design. Mine has undergone some major revisions, but it is still leaking. Check out the "basecamp issues" thread for some photos. Good luck!!!
Katherine
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04-17-2017, 08:57 PM
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#60
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2 Rivet Member
2017 Basecamp
Currently Looking...
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 82
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Just found out about all these issues when I called my dealer Colonial to ask an unrelated question. Without ever seeing this forum before today I can confirm I have had all the same issues: leak from closed ceiling fan, flood from under the fridge thru the vents behind propane tanks, missing spare crank, also a leak through a side wall seam towards back on driver side that dripped onto seat cushion soaking it...and now I know about the axle/tire issue...AFTER our 2000 mile one-way trip to our new home in Utah [emoji849]. Sounds like my new favorite toy is gonna be sitting at the AS dealer in Salt Lake City for a while [emoji30][emoji30][emoji30]
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