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Old 02-21-2011, 02:23 PM   #15
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P.S. I could use the tambour door under the stove if your scrapping!

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Old 02-21-2011, 02:24 PM   #16
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P.S. I could use the tambour door under the stove if your scrapping!

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Old 02-21-2011, 04:04 PM   #17
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Take your time and think this out. I guess your a younger guy with a lot of energy and this does not have to be done overnight. I have seen lots of bigger projects here on the forums. Good luck. Sal.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:33 PM   #18
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72-500, If you are not willing to put $10,000 into it then you may want to consider unloading it because that's what it will cost you at minimum to get it roadworthy. As others have noted, every once in a while there is a well cared for 70's model trailer up for sale for relatively cheap. Unfortunately there are many abused ones out there also. Even if you completely restore it, it may not be worth $18,000. It may be worth more in scrap.
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Old 02-21-2011, 05:26 PM   #19
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Ten grand won't be near enough for that.

Airstream gets my vote for removing cash from the bank account. The only quicker way I've found to make money disappear is a blackjack table in Vegas.
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I would Make it a great long term project, if you just do a little bit at a time $500-1000 here and there, you wont notice the price tag at the end as bad, and it will be done in a couple years. Plus if you do it your way it's done how you want and has what ever you want in it.
Plus with a kid on the way you have until it's born to work on it and after that your time for working on it it will be gone as will your camping time.
this might sound bad but you can also use it as a escape and work on it after the kid is born. ( know that sounds bad but if it wasnt for a hobby my brother would have went crazy the first year and a half after his first kid was born.
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I also bought a 1990 29ft er for around 10k my first A/S it was camp ready for the most part after the first season i learned a lot with it it was in OK shape and the older couple that had it before me really didn't have it serviced that much and when i started getting into the trailer i found the whole rear floor were the twin beds were need to replaced as well as the front and a bunch of little things here and there.
If i wanted to add it all up on what it would cost to fix it all i would have said screw it and bought a new one (if I could afford it )
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Your trailer had body damage on both ends. That's gonna just kill it for top dollar re-sale. Up here in South Dakota, we think it's quite bad enough to spend money on a good shell.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:16 AM   #23
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Sounds like I should just forget the idea that this old gal will ever get to see another state. I hate to be the one that would cut her all up and melt her down. Maybe a second life as a permanent live in is what this trailer needs. Seems like a whole lot of the major costs here you guys are looking at is road worthy upgrades, cut all that out and do a house fridge, relocate the house water heater, throw a plywood patch over the hole where the toilet is, some flooring, some elbow grease, new counter, sink, faucet, stove, a/c, curtains and then it could be useable if it is parked. I wouldn't have to worry about weight of the couch/bed, dont need to think about the water tanks as it would be hooked up to a hose and piped strait to the septic tank(sewer).

How's that sound? Like a pipe dream still or maybe doable for under $3K?
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72-500 Yes easily doable for under $3k. Fix the rear floor and seperation problem, seal up the shell(window gaskets,roof vents, stink pipe vents, door and compartments gaskets and all trim and shell seams). If parked you can reuse the residential water heater and the residential toilet add a full size fridge and you can even save on the a/c by putting in a window mount unit.
You would have to drop the belly pan and banana wraps in the rear to properly repair the rear floor. That sounds harder than it is.
Please don't scrap it. Park it, fix it for now and maybe later on down the road you can fix it up for travel.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #25
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I think something may be wrong with me, I'm now considering having a look at this I found a few days ago, amazed it is still available, called about it today. Has a couple broken windows, door wont close, bill of sale only. He says it has all the cabinets and stuff inside that should be there, and its a tandem axle. Thats all I know about it for now.

My thought was to make a "trailer park" on my 5 acres here in Joshua Tree and rent them as vacation rentals, I've seen it in FL and Santa Barbara, could work here as well.

PS. Wife is not too happy about me even looking and considering another piece of #$%@, but hey, you only live once!
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72-500 yes there is definately something wrong with you. You can't even afford to fix up the one you have and now you want "THAT" one. It's even worse the the excella. It's an Argosy the poor painted sister of Airstream. It's another money pit. One at a time. If you can't afford to even fix up the trailers how on earth would you find the financial resources to build a campground. I know of what I speak as I own and operate a campground. Here's a financial wake up for you. Septic system $250,000 water system $50,000 electrical $150,000 roads and site development $75,000 and $5,000 per site for driveway and lot development.Public washrooms $125,000 swimming pool $75,000
Now move on to zoning and bylaws. County planning application $5,000 City planning application $2,500 environmental impact study $50,000, engineered plans for water, septic and electrical required for applications $80,000. Misc other costs, permits out buildings etc $137,500. That all totals at $1.5 million for 150 sites so $10,000 per site based on 150 sites. Fewr sites and the cost per site rises to $15,000 to $20,000 per site. All that is without land costs which I did not include because you said you have the land. With 5 acres you would probably only be allowed 25 sites so a rough guess it would run you closer to $30,000 per site for development and infrastructure.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:14 PM   #27
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. Here's a financial wake up for you. Septic system $250,000 water system $50,000 electrical $150,000 roads and site development $75,000 and $5,000 per site for driveway and lot development.Public washrooms $125,000 swimming pool $75,000
Now move on to zoning and bylaws. County planning application $5,000 City planning application $2,500 environmental impact study $50,000, engineered plans for water, septic and electrical required for applications $80,000. Misc other costs, permits out buildings etc $137,500. That all totals at $1.5 million for 150 sites so $10,000 per site based on 150 sites. Fewr sites and the cost per site rises to $15,000 to $20,000 per site. All that is without land costs which I did not include because you said you have the land. With 5 acres you would probably only be allowed 25 sites so a rough guess it would run you closer to $30,000 per site for development and infrastructure.
Wow! That comes to 75,000 paid occupanies, or 500 days of 100% occupancy at $20 per nite, to pay the principle. Oh, and hope you didn't find any indian burial groundss or some three toed midget endangered smelt in the verdant pools....and what do the taxes do on that developed ground then?
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:19 PM   #28
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