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07-25-2016, 01:18 PM
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trois-rivières
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quick question about rivet gun
Hello,
I'm currently searching for a rivet gun for my futur airstream renovation.
I just want to know if I need an 1/4 heavy duty rivet gun who can accept nose pieces 3/32", 1/8", 5/32", 3/16", 7/32" and 1/4" (with traction power 3 960 lb/pi) or a "small" one who only accept nose pieces 3/32", 1/8", 5/32" and 3/16" (with traction power 1 985 lb/pi).
those aren't the same price. The small one is about 120$ and the big one at 900$
thank for any advises
link: http://www.napacanada.com/flashpubli...PowerTools.pdf
page 165
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07-25-2016, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Get the smaller one, unless you plan to work on railroad cars.
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07-25-2016, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,314
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I've rebuilt my trailer, and used a 3/16" max capacity gun. Nothing larger is needed. I bought my gun from Harbor freight for about $30. It lasted through most of my rennovation and failed, so I had to buy a second one (as the parts kit didn't include the failed part).
good luck
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07-25-2016, 03:52 PM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
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$9 on sale st harbor freight.... $18 at lowes/ home depot.
Popped thousands of rivets and still going strong.... take your pick!
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07-26-2016, 11:51 AM
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Stay CazuaL
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
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I'm just commenting so I can be part of this thread, I want to read about what others are saying. I am also looking for a rivet gun because a few inside has gone to the afterlife.
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07-26-2016, 12:07 PM
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trois-rivières
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another question: I know, when I will get my trailer, that some of those rivets will need to be change.
But, should I change all the revets even it have a lot to replace?
I mean, as to waste time doing the infiltration test and check them one by one ....
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07-26-2016, 12:10 PM
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trois-rivières
, Quebec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AtomicNo13
$9 on sale st harbor freight.... $18 at lowes/ home depot.
Popped thousands of rivets and still going strong.... take your pick!
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those I saw at Home depot / lowes aren't pneumatic riveter ....
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07-26-2016, 12:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Mattituck
, New York
Join Date: Nov 2015
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While all the input is appreciated. What is the size of the rivets used by A S.
I presume they are aluminium.
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07-26-2016, 12:54 PM
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Box Elder (formerly Long Island, NY)
, South Dakota
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Skip the Harbor Freight rivet gun. The one I bought from them would never grab the mandrel tightly enough to get a good result. I bought a Stanley rivet gun at Home Depot for $20 and never had a problem (both tools were made in China).
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07-26-2016, 07:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Vermilion
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 38
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Not sure what type of rivet gun you are looking for, but this one should be able to drive any rivet in a airstream.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...vetgun2602.php
Mike
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07-26-2016, 07:33 PM
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trois-rivières
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miko38
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the one I will buy look like this one :
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...es/ATS8805.php
look the same as the one you showed
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07-26-2016, 11:06 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I have seen a ratchet type rivet puller for pop rivets. Much easier to use in tight places. Does anybody have any sources?
guskmg
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07-27-2016, 04:38 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I ended up buying a second rivet tool.
The second one swiveled and was on an angle. It worked on a few hard to reach places that the straight one wouldn't.
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07-27-2016, 05:58 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 30' Sovereign
Rockford
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2014
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I have been very happy with my Harbor Freight pneumatic/hydraulic gun which has pulled every rivet effortlessly. I also bought a Marson hand rivet gun kit from Amazon which works very well when I don't have a compressor handy. You will be glad for pneumatic power when it's time to pull dozens of 3/16 large-head rivets for your belly pan! Airstreams use primarily 1/8" rivets, with some 3/16" as well.
For buck rivets, though it was spendy, I got the kit from VTS. In hindsight, it has been worth the investment. (I am finishing up my shell-off restoration of a 68 Sovereign so don't know if you need the buck riveting capability)
Good luck!
Mark
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07-27-2016, 06:58 AM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I got my pneumatohyraulic rivet puller at Harbor Freight also.
After thousands of rivets it still works, tho does need to be tuned up once in awhile.
Best feature is that you can easily use it with one hand, freeing the other hand to postion and adjust whatever you're riveting.
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07-27-2016, 08:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Boubou,
Do you have your Airstream picked out already? Are you considering a Stream that has a need for extensive exterior panel repair where you will be setting lots of Olympic rivets? If so, go ahead on a pneumatic. I wouldn't see a need for the HD model.
Otherwise my Stanely hand tool has been more than good for my repairs. It also has the benefit of a swiveling head.
Maybe wait and see what the trailer looks like before you buy?
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07-27-2016, 09:32 AM
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Link’s Travels
2002 25' Safari
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1999 35' XL 350 w/slide
LINCOLN
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You don't need a pneumatic rivet gun. Buy a hand rivet gun from Sears, Lowes, Home Depot or Menards. They work great and will do the job unless you are riveting an entire trailer. I just put about 20 rivets in a bottom back panel of 2005 25' Safari and it worked great. If you go to the Airstream factory website there is a place where you can printout the rivet sizes and where they go. I picked up a copy while at Alumapalooza a few months ago; great info.
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07-27-2016, 09:40 AM
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trois-rivières
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thiss
Boubou,
Do you have your Airstream picked out already? Are you considering a Stream that has a need for extensive exterior panel repair where you will be setting lots of Olympic rivets? If so, go ahead on a pneumatic. I wouldn't see a need for the HD model.
Otherwise my Stanely hand tool has been more than good for my repairs. It also has the benefit of a swiveling head.
Maybe wait and see what the trailer looks like before you buy?
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You mark a point!
I thought those olympic rivets style was something we must avoid because they tend to wiggle and let water come in. :/
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07-27-2016, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissingLink5
You don't need a pneumatic rivet gun. Buy a hand rivet gun from Sears, Lowes, Home Depot or Menards. They work great and will do the job unless you are riveting an entire trailer. I just put about 20 rivets in a bottom back panel of 2005 25' Safari and it worked great. If you go to the Airstream factory website there is a place where you can printout the rivet sizes and where they go. I picked up a copy while at Alumapalooza a few months ago; great info.
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ok. we can say that your 2005 trailer it pretty young . Those I look are much older (1960 to 1976). So I guess I will need to change more than a few rivets :\
And that is my second question: should I drill all the old rivets and replace it by news (the trailer will be completely stripped anyway) to make sur than those rivets are good?
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07-27-2016, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
2023 28' Flying Cloud
Monmouth
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 602
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boubou
ok. we can say that your 2005 trailer it pretty young . Those I look are much older (1960 to 1976). So I guess I will need to change more than a few rivets :\
And that is my second question: should I drill all the old rivets and replace it by news (the trailer will be completely stripped anyway) to make sur than those rivets are good?
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All depends on the project. No reason to drill a perfectly good rivet. The bad ones, especially pop rivets, become very obvious that they are not holding.
An Olympic rivet is just a pop rivet disguised
as a buck by shaving the head. The exterior of the shell is all buck riveted by two people working together with access to both sides of the rivet. I don't know if they are to avoided or not due to leaking. I haven't read that and I also know Airstream supplies them for repairs.
Are you planning to gut the whole interior and remove all of the interior skins? If that is the case then the pneumatic would make sense, but not the $900 model (that would only make sense of you were planning to rivet all day every day). However, I have not needed to do that on my 70s trailer.
Again I would wait for the project to be purchased and then go about securing the appropriate tools to complete.
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