Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-27-2016, 06:58 AM   #15
Site Team
 
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,641
Images: 59
I got my pneumatohyraulic rivet puller at Harbor Freight also.
After thousands of rivets it still works, tho does need to be tuned up once in awhile.

Best feature is that you can easily use it with one hand, freeing the other hand to postion and adjust whatever you're riveting.
__________________

__________________
markdoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2016, 08:35 AM   #16
3 Rivet Member
 
Thiss's Avatar
 
1971 27' Overlander
Monmouth , Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 183
Boubou,

Do you have your Airstream picked out already? Are you considering a Stream that has a need for extensive exterior panel repair where you will be setting lots of Olympic rivets? If so, go ahead on a pneumatic. I wouldn't see a need for the HD model.

Otherwise my Stanely hand tool has been more than good for my repairs. It also has the benefit of a swiveling head.

Maybe wait and see what the trailer looks like before you buy?
__________________

__________________
1971 Overlander Twin bed, rear bath.

2016 Ram 3500 Cummins 4x4 Crew Longbed
Thiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2016, 09:32 AM   #17
2 Rivet Member
 
2006 25' Safari SS SE
LINCOLN , Nebraska
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 50
You don't need a pneumatic rivet gun. Buy a hand rivet gun from Sears, Lowes, Home Depot or Menards. They work great and will do the job unless you are riveting an entire trailer. I just put about 20 rivets in a bottom back panel of 2005 25' Safari and it worked great. If you go to the Airstream factory website there is a place where you can printout the rivet sizes and where they go. I picked up a copy while at Alumapalooza a few months ago; great info.
__________________
MissingLink5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2016, 09:40 AM   #18
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
trois-rivières , Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thiss View Post
Boubou,

Do you have your Airstream picked out already? Are you considering a Stream that has a need for extensive exterior panel repair where you will be setting lots of Olympic rivets? If so, go ahead on a pneumatic. I wouldn't see a need for the HD model.

Otherwise my Stanely hand tool has been more than good for my repairs. It also has the benefit of a swiveling head.

Maybe wait and see what the trailer looks like before you buy?
You mark a point!

I thought those olympic rivets style was something we must avoid because they tend to wiggle and let water come in. :/
__________________
boubou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2016, 09:48 AM   #19
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
trois-rivières , Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissingLink5 View Post
You don't need a pneumatic rivet gun. Buy a hand rivet gun from Sears, Lowes, Home Depot or Menards. They work great and will do the job unless you are riveting an entire trailer. I just put about 20 rivets in a bottom back panel of 2005 25' Safari and it worked great. If you go to the Airstream factory website there is a place where you can printout the rivet sizes and where they go. I picked up a copy while at Alumapalooza a few months ago; great info.
ok. we can say that your 2005 trailer it pretty young . Those I look are much older (1960 to 1976). So I guess I will need to change more than a few rivets :\

And that is my second question: should I drill all the old rivets and replace it by news (the trailer will be completely stripped anyway) to make sur than those rivets are good?
__________________
boubou is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2016, 10:34 AM   #20
3 Rivet Member
 
Thiss's Avatar
 
1971 27' Overlander
Monmouth , Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 183
Quote:
Originally Posted by boubou View Post
ok. we can say that your 2005 trailer it pretty young . Those I look are much older (1960 to 1976). So I guess I will need to change more than a few rivets :\

And that is my second question: should I drill all the old rivets and replace it by news (the trailer will be completely stripped anyway) to make sur than those rivets are good?
All depends on the project. No reason to drill a perfectly good rivet. The bad ones, especially pop rivets, become very obvious that they are not holding.

An Olympic rivet is just a pop rivet disguised
as a buck by shaving the head. The exterior of the shell is all buck riveted by two people working together with access to both sides of the rivet. I don't know if they are to avoided or not due to leaking. I haven't read that and I also know Airstream supplies them for repairs.

Are you planning to gut the whole interior and remove all of the interior skins? If that is the case then the pneumatic would make sense, but not the $900 model (that would only make sense of you were planning to rivet all day every day). However, I have not needed to do that on my 70s trailer.

Again I would wait for the project to be purchased and then go about securing the appropriate tools to complete.
__________________
Thiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2016, 02:24 PM   #21
Duck Alum(inum)
 
kevinmlamb's Avatar
 
2008 19' International
Eugene , Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 12
Just bought mine last week

I just bought the $9 Stanley model from Home Depot last week, but only for replacing the interior skin rivets that had popped loose over the past few months. It handles 1/8", 5/32", and 3/16" size rivets and will shoot both steel and aluminum rivets. Did the job just fine and has a lifetime warranty. I don't know all the rivet sizes inside and out of my Airstream, but I think this gun would handle light duty work.

By the way, I bought a collection of rivets, as well. Steel and aluminum sets at 1/8", 1/4", and 3/8" lengths. For some reason, only the 1/8" aluminum rivets had white heads on them. Having never used a rivet gun in my life, I thought that, somehow, the white wouldn't show. I was wrong and I switched to the 1/4" size before I shot the others. Good to know that 1/8" and 1/4" work equally well on the interior. Of course, the white rivet is directly in the line of sight as you're walking through the door, so now I'll have a constant reminder of my learning curve.
__________________
kevinmlamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2016, 08:25 PM   #22
Rivet Master
 
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland , New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,238
Images: 3
I think something is getting lost here. There are 2 types of rivets, pop and buck. Boubou, you seem to be going back and forth and possibly confusing the two.
You mention avoiding the Olympic rivets, those are pop rivets that are primarily used to replace exterior bucked rivets. They then get shaved to make them look like bucked rivets. The only thing you can avoid those with on the exterior is with new bucked rivets. Bucking new rivets is preferred if you have access to the back of the exterior skins. The process requires completely different rivet gun, a pneumatic bucking rivet gun with appropriate rivet set and bucking bar for solid rivets.
The interior rivets are basic 1/8" pop rivets. Those can be installed with the guns you were looking at in the catalog you linked. But those are not really necessary. I popped well over 1000 new rivets when I replaced all the interior skins in my trailer using a basic manual squeeze pop rivet gun.
There should be no need to go trying to replace all the exterior rivets, you'd just be creating a lot of work and probably end up doing more damage than any positive value added.
The original exterior rivets are 1/8" brazier head aluminum solid buck rivets. When replacing them you drill the hole to 5/32" to get a clean round hole and replace them with 5/32" modified brazier head rivets.
Vintage trailer supply has a good rivet section, you can look at the buck and pop rivet sections to get a little more info on them;
http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/category-s/5.htm
__________________

__________________
HiJoeSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rivets, rivet gun and brazier gun ? Gaël Ribs, Skins & Rivets 33 03-27-2014 08:27 AM
Buck rivet gun question mrgreen Ribs, Skins & Rivets 8 03-16-2012 12:27 PM
Rivet gun overlander76 Ribs, Skins & Rivets 1 08-03-2003 06:22 AM
proper rivet gun for AS oldvws Ribs, Skins & Rivets 12 11-23-2002 09:04 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.