I am not sure this is the place to ask my question. I am interested in anyone's evaluation of the 20 ft. Safari. I understand the first year the model came out was 2006. Am I right?
I think the 20 is a 19 done in an FB format. The main difference between the 22 and the 20, besides number of axles is that it has a dry bath vs a wet bath. IMHO for those needing a smaller trailer the 20 and 23 foot units are one of the best ones out there.
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I think the 20 is a 19 done in an FB format. The main difference between the 22 and the 20, besides number of axles is that it has a dry bath vs a wet bath. IMHO for those needing a smaller trailer the 20 and 23 foot units are one of the best ones out there.
mr winkie,
i haven't seen you around, i was becoming concerned that perhaps you had locked yourself outa your 'stream.
Hi, I have to agree with Kevbo10; A 25'er is the best size. It is considered the largest of the small trailers, and the smallest of the large trailers.
Yes, the 25' is really the most comfortable entry size IMHO as well, however, at between 6300 and 7300lbs GVWR (depending on model year), it's well out of a number of tow vehicles ability. If I were in the middle, wanting a 25' but in that position of not enough TV, the 23 foot seems to be a good in between. Dual axles, lower GVWR and can be towed with most 1/2 or equiv to vehicles. It's not much more in weight than the 20', yet provides a bit more room and slightly more comfortable layout IMHO.
One additional thing to consider whenever upgrading is that interior space is about 3 feet less than the overall length. 19 feet has about 16 feet of useable interior space. 25 feet about 22 feet...and so on..... Although 3 feet doesn't sound like much, in some cases it just enough to not overcrowed the interior.
Of course personal needs and taste come into play, but that just my .02.
One last thing to mention is the Safari Sport line. Although still a single axle, they are less weight and you can get one up to a 22 foot unit with similar touches from the Argosy line. Info on them can be found here:
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Twenty-five is that magic size between a small and large Airstream. That,s why they are so popular and hold their value so well.You have pretty much all the ammenties of the larger Airstreams and none of the short comings of the smaller Airstreams.
Twenty-five is that magic size between a small and large Airstream. That,s why they are so popular and hold their value so well.You have pretty much all the ammenties of the larger Airstreams and none of the short comings of the smaller Airstreams.
I like mine too...even if I get white knuckles in construction zones due to it being a widebody.
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I like mine too...even if I get white knuckles in construction zones due to it being a widebody.
Yes, construction zone signs have sharp edges -- something I thankfully don't know from experience. They're usually far enough apart although might require some swerving (shoulda got da Cayenne...). I went through one in my Subaru Outback on a major Minneapolis street yesterday (about 54th & Penn) that would have given trouble to a Minuet. I'd never seen one so narrow!
We just purchased the 20' Safari a month ago after thinking for a long time the 19' Bambi was what we wanted.
Don't know your situation, but we're a couple with no kids to tote along and can't escape the office for any long trips. We wanted something we could keep at the house, hook up and go for weekend float trips or bike rides in places where your only option was a tent or a bad bed & breakfast. If I could go out for weeks at a time, I probably would have looked at something bigger.
A couple of things made us decide on the 20. First, kitchen counter space. The 20 has a ton compared to other models smaller and larger. It's comfortable meal prep space and we like to cook. Second, the sleeping configuration. The beds in these babys ain't like the king at home. We'll each take a bed rather than beat each other up in one. With one person in the front bed and one on the dinette, we can both comfortably see the TV if we want to plug in a movie and watch from bed.
Lots of storage that's easy to get to under the front bed as well.
Well to answer your question, regarding the 20, I would have to say that it is the perfect 19. It has more counter space than the 19 which makes it a little more usable. If I were buying new I would give the 20 or the new sport 22 a serious look. However, at half the price, I setteled for a used 19.
And bigger is not always better. It's all in how you use it that provides the best satisfaction!
We love our 20'. We find the bed just fine- although it's not our king at home. And we particularly like not having to set up the bed every night. The dinette works for the occasional guest. The kitchen is a good layout. But what really sold it was the bathroom. It feels much bigger than the ones with the angled wall.
We've had our 20' Safari for just over a month now and have only been in it 3 nights but here's a quick run down of my preferences...
First off we decided to go with the 20' because of its weight and in relation to our tow vehicle it offered us the most usable space. The 19 seemed too tight for us, and the 23 was a bit too heavy towing in Colorado.
Sleeping configuration is large enough for us and located AWAY from the head. We normally sleep on a queen size bed at home and this is comparable to a twin.
Plenty of storage under the bed as well. I havent filled all of the storage compartments up yet and theres still plenty of room.
Kitchen has more counter space for prep AND the double sink is nice. Really the kitchen area is enough to have sold us on the 20' model.
I'm sure I'll have more input as we spend more time in it.
Mike
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Hi, I have to agree with Kevbo10; A 25'er is the best size. It is considered the largest of the small trailers, and the smallest of the large trailers.
I'd never seen one so narrow!
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