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Old 02-13-2007, 05:38 PM   #1
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Newer model odors/fumes

How long does it take for the chemical smells in a new trailer to dissipate? Does it bother anyone else? We've only had our Safari for a couple of months and we try to air it out as often as possible, but as soon as we close it up for any period of time, the smells are back with a vengeance. The last few days have been rainy, so it's been closed tightly, and when I opened it up just now the odor almost knocked my socks off. I'm not talking about the "emissions most foul" that come with organic matter and mouse droppings, but a definite "eau de manufacturing."
Thanks for any input! I tried to search for a thread I thought I'd seen on this subject but it's too buried...
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:56 PM   #2
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Janet, that's just the down side of being lucky enough to have a new one...

I always liked the new car smell, this must be different or just stronger?

On another thread earlier today, there was discussion about odors of another kind,(Mice) and some suggestions. One of the suggestions was an open container of coffee, you might also try a tray of baking soda.

Good luck, maybe you'll get more ideas on dealing with it.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:06 PM   #3
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Janet,
Apparently some trailers are worse than others. Heat, ventilation and time will be the biggest help. If you have the option I would try and leave a roof vent barely open. I have also had decent luck using Febreeze on the fabrics to help drive the odor out. What type of roof vent fan do you have? Some of them can be left open even in the rain. MaxxAir has a relative new one out that can run even when raining.

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Old 02-13-2007, 06:36 PM   #4
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Glues in plywood & particle board may outgas formaldehyde for a while (link). Plastics of any type will outgas other compounds -- you've seen the slimy deposit inside the windshield on newer cars/trucks. Summer's heat will drive out a lot, so have the windows/vents opened slightly when you can in those months (use the fantastic fan sensor?). I don't notice it much after 16 months or so.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:52 PM   #5
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FWIW, I am fortunate enough to keep my vintage Airstream at my house. While out-gassing from new materials probably dissipated 39 years ago, I still keep one roof vent & one window cracked 24-7 just to keep the place aired out.

It started out as a means to keep the place from getting musty, but I am happy to brag that it ended up being the best way to keep the aroma of thick-sliced bacon cooking from taking over the place.

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Old 02-13-2007, 06:54 PM   #6
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Mine is 2 years old and many people entering it say it still smells new. I still notice the new smell also- but it has diminished. I don't try to get it out as I don't mind it much. The furnace also has a new duct smell every time I use it. I've used my trailer extensively, in hot and cold weather.

My only suggestion would be to air it out as often as you can.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:04 PM   #7
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Thanks for all those helpful tips! We've already done the Febreeze and baking soda thing, but we're probably also just going to have to be patient and ventilate well until all the materials finish "outgassing".
And Fyrzowt, oh how I wish it was that lovely smell of new leather that you never want to fade! Maybe a new TV for that one?
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:29 PM   #8
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The chemicals that are used at construction time are, as the sticker said on our sink "known to cause cancer in the State of California".

That said, our unit is a 2004, built 12/2003. When it's been closed up for extended periods, the fumes inside build and it's hard to be inside until I vent it out with the windows open and maybe the fans on.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:37 PM   #9
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Thanks. I'm going to do that from now on whenever it's closed up for long. There's just something about these odors that says "unhealthy" instead of "fresh and new!"
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:13 PM   #10
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Again, my two cents worth...
All of the above are correct. We have an 06 model. Since new, I keep both roof vents (one is the Fantastic fan) open when weather permits. We have never noticed any strong/offensive odor. Works.
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Although we have a 1981 Excella II, some musty smells remained after a good scrub with light bleach water. Someone suggested that we boil cinnamon sticks inside for a couple of days and see how that worked. They explained it has always worked for them. We gave it a try and I was amazed how well it worked. This may not combat the new chemical smells, but it seemed to work for us. Good luck!
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Hi, My 2005 Safari has always had the new smell and it is not bad. But when you take it out, same as a new car, use the air conditioner and the heat strip and the furnace and the vents and the windows. What I'm saying is to use everything to vent out and burn off the newness of all appliances whenever you get a chance. We park ours at home [totally sealed off] and cannot get into it for months and it always smells new / fresh. Other than that, we put a box of bakeing soda in the fridge with the doors held open and keep a opened box of fabric softner sheets [bounce] on the kitchen counter.
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Thanks. I'm going to do that from now on whenever it's closed up for long. There's just something about these odors that says "unhealthy" instead of "fresh and new!"
We have always been aware of "air pollution", even in our home. Current studies have shown that interior pollution is at times more serious than exterior (outdoor) pollution, especially where typical building materials are present.

We have the same model AS (Safari 25FB/SE) and when we are not using it we open the shower vent to allow outgases and other contaminants to escape before they build up enough to actually smell. In addition we actively make sure we air out the AS when in use. However, the most effective tool we use is a simple air purifier. We use a compact "Ionic Breeze" at all times while we store and while we are on shore power. There are other brands of similar quality that will do the same job.

Another tip to reduce the possibility of outgassing is to replace the halogen overhead lamps with LEDs (much less heat). The heat from the halogens provide a stimulus that increases the chemical process that causes outgassing of all of those laminate products in the interior.

I believe we have succeeded in eliminating this problem since we have not had the typicals smells associated nor have we had anyone visiting our AS lodge any complaint. And believe me when I say that our friends and family are not shy about mentioning anything that annoys their senses.

I hope this helps.

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I've popped an email to a friend who owns a furniture store and they get a lot of these problems when people refurnish a house. I believe he tells them to get an ozone machine but I'll confirm when he responds.

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