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SilverHoot · 05-25-2010, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hollymaren

I have a question-has anyone ever removed the original plastic vinyl wallpaper? Would this be easier than all of the above steps to seal it? I realize that you would still have to patch?, sand, and prime but you wouldn't be waiting for it to leach through.
Just a thought if anyone has ever done this and lived to tell the tale-ha!

Have read here on the forums that it is a horrendous job....

lgastall · 06-08-2010, 04:25 PM

I recently painted my interior with a primer called Bin. I thought it worked brilliantly! You can paint the Bin primer on to the cleaned vinyl even if it is sticky; so far it seems to have prevented the stickiness from bleeding through. It also blocks stains and does not require prior sanding.

I have explained it more thoroughly on my blog.

Lucy.

adwriter73 · 07-09-2010, 03:20 PM

I talked with the guys at Insl-X, makers of STIX primer. Someone here mentioned it earlier. They said that it is not good at holding back the plasticizers in the vinyl. They recommended another primer calls Aqua-Lock for that. The difference being that Aqua-Lock is 100% acrylic, waterborne primer. STIX is waterborne, urethane acrylic. I personally have no idea what any of that means. It's just what they told me.

Roadrunner · 07-09-2010, 03:41 PM

Like Lucy, we are using BIN to prime our vinyl walls. So far so good. Was told that being a shellac based product, it would be harder, more durable, cover more, and should keep back plasticizer. Two coats so far and we are ready for latex paint. Time will tell...

Bob
TAC PA-5

lgastall · 07-11-2010, 03:24 PM

Bob.

Have you had any trouble with it peeling off yet? I've had a few small patches peeling off but only in a 1ft square area.

I spoke to the paint shop and they said they had no idea but could send the BIN rep round if I needed.

Everywhere else it is still working brilliantly, I just wondered if you had suffered a similar problem.

Lucy.

adwriter73 · 07-13-2010, 10:17 AM

I primed my walls last night with XIM bonding primer and noticed two spots about 5 - 7 inches in diameter have started "crinkling". I'm going to assume those are areas that I didn't quite get clean, but I'm not sure what to do about it. I thought I'd sand those areas done to the vinyl and TSP them, rinse and re-prime. Any thoughts? Everything else seems to have stuck pretty well.

wasagachris · 07-13-2010, 12:41 PM

I have begun painting my interior walls with Krylon spray paint for plastics. Works great. takes forever to mask off or remove everything. At 8 bucks a can I think I could have bought a new A/S for less.LOL.

lgastall · 07-13-2010, 03:51 PM

Adwriter,

Where about in the van is it happening? I've had the same problem.

I sanded the patches down and re-cleaned them and reapplied the paint. My patches are still noticeable though as I couldn’t sand down the paint in the vinyl texture.

I can post some pictures of my reapplied bits if you want.

adwriter73 · 07-13-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lgastall

Adwriter,

Where about in the van is it happening? I've had the same problem.

I sanded the patches down and re-cleaned them and reapplied the paint. My patches are still noticeable though as I couldn’t sand down the paint in the vinyl texture.

I can post some pictures of my reapplied bits if you want.

Mine were in the ceiling. Pretty sure it was areas I missed with the cleaning solution. I sanded them down, re-cleaned with TSP, rinsed it off and re-applied the primer. Going to check it in about an hour to see if the "crinkling" has stopped.

AirstrmNewB · 08-15-2010, 09:55 PM

Wow, good info! Rollerboy, would the Cover-Stain be a good product to prime the fake wood with, before painting? I want to brighten the inside of my 72 AS, and get rid of the dark fake-stain. Thanks!

lgastall · 11-05-2010, 05:15 PM

Just a quick update.

I suggested using BIN primer. Over all it has worked brilliantly but in small patches it has started to bubble. It's not a huge problem but it's not the wonder fix I thought it first was.

I just wanted to warn anybody who was thinking of using it.

Lucy.

mikeandnora · 01-28-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wasagachris

I have begun painting my interior walls with Krylon spray paint for plastics. Works great. takes forever to mask off or remove everything. At 8 bucks a can I think I could have bought a new A/S for less.LOL.

How has this turned out? It seems too easy/good to be true but it looks great!

wasagachris · 01-28-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fishandfly

How has this turned out? It seems too easy/good to be true but it looks great!

Hi Fishandfly Well actually it has turned out really well. My project has morphed into a complete shell off so all the interior skins and end caps have been removed. I did paint almost all of them before they were removed. Here are a couple of shots before everything was removed. You can clearly see the sections not painted yet. I wish I could find this paint in liquid form to just roll on. The spray cans are expensive and a lot of time was spent masking off everything.

mikeandnora · 02-03-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wasagachris

Hi Fishandfly Well actually it has turned out really well. My project has morphed into a complete shell off so all the interior skins and end caps have been removed. I did paint almost all of them before they were removed. Here are a couple of shots before everything was removed. You can clearly see the sections not painted yet. I wish I could find this paint in liquid form to just roll on. The spray cans are expensive and a lot of time was spent masking off everything.

Wow. Looking great.

megan · 02-20-2011, 11:25 AM

Does anyone worry about all the chemical leaching into the air and contaminating our environment. We just bought our airstream and plan to use it as both an office and a family vacation tool, but I am very worried about all of the plastics. First there is the vinyl wall issue and then it seems that even the primers and sealers are just more chemicals that are inevitably gassing. I don't know how easily I'll rest in my little silver pod if I'm thinking we are just all being gassed. Our vinyl is sticky sticky so I'm looking to seal and paint it but am hoping someone has the best, most environmentally friendly option we can use.

noreen&sal · 02-20-2011, 11:34 AM

OMHO, but if you worry too much, hypertension will get you before the toxins even have a chance. Dont ask me how I know. Sal.

funkill · 02-20-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by megan

Does anyone worry about all the chemical leaching into the air and contaminating our environment. We just bought our airstream and plan to use it as both an office and a family vacation tool, but I am very worried about all of the plastics. First there is the vinyl wall issue and then it seems that even the primers and sealers are just more chemicals that are inevitably gassing. I don't know how easily I'll rest in my little silver pod if I'm thinking we are just all being gassed. Our vinyl is sticky sticky so I'm looking to seal and paint it but am hoping someone has the best, most environmentally friendly option we can use.

I worry about my dog gassing me out

Search this forum for advice on great products to clean the vinyl coated walls - the stickiness can be successfully removed. If you're worried about chemicals and the associated impact on the world, leave the paint on the shelf... I work on the shuttle program - both in payload and crew systems. We are extremely concerned with out-gassing - as it can effect humans and very sensitive orbiting spacecraft. Almost everything outgasses. Somehow, we have flight-approved sharpie markers. Hummmmmmmmm Sometimes you just have to let convenience override!

Laura

megan · 02-20-2011, 09:30 PM

We used to get so frustrated with my grandparents as they were always worried about the out gassing, to the degree that they would cover their flooring with area rugs that we all tripped over. I can't believe they didn't break a hip on those rugs!

I have to say, I while I'm not super crazy about chemicals and such in the house, it really freaks me out to think about being in such a small, enclosed space surrounded by nothing but vinyl and acrylics. We'll be in our airstream for longer than I would expect anyone is on a shuttle. Come to think of it, my crazy grandfather was an engineer at NASA for over 25 years.

Reganzo · 02-21-2011, 12:30 PM

I used a wall paper from Loews that was pre-glued and you tore it into pieces of various sizes then moistend in warm water and applied onto the wall.

I cleaned the vinyl with a mild solution of TSP before applying the wall paper. It covers well and more than two years still looks great.

Regards,

Reganzo

wba1 · 08-02-2011, 12:00 AM

After washing the vinyl walls of 1976 AS Caravanner with just water and a little detergent, I applied two coats of polycrylic to the walls. They seem to be better with less stickiness than previous noticed. I will probably apply at least one more coat. I did not want to paint because I like the look of the original material. If I find anything significant I'll report to the group.

Thanks WBa1