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Old 03-26-2007, 09:10 PM   #1
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To couch or not to couch?

I cleared out the front of the trailer and started measuring. We are wanting to get a couch bed that will at least be a double in the bed position. Funny how the front of the trailer gets really small when you start measuring it.

I’ve measured for a 74″ wide sofa that sits out at 32″. When in the bed position it goes to 48″. In this photo the solid tape line is the couch position and the dashed line is when its pulled out to a bed.







You can see it does not leave much room . I need to sit five people up here for watching TV at night and for eating as well. So I will also need some kind of a table.

The tape measures are set to 25″ designating if I built a wrap around dinette from scratch. That would give more seating area but utimately would not be as comforatable as a comercially built couch.

Ho hum, when's it going to be fun?
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:01 PM   #2
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hi tim

seating for 5?

and dining?

and sleeping?

how about some storage too?

one word...

gaucho!

the C shaped goucho with a pull out center makes a quick bed.

yes foam cushions are generally not as comfortable as a real mattress,

but add a 2 inch rollup quilted futon like topper that doubles as a back bolster...

makes a nice bed.

you would then have the option of a rectagular or round or square pedestal table...

or fold up end tables...

and open space in the center with under storage.

airstream used these gauchos with good reason; actually several good reasons!

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Old 03-26-2007, 10:57 PM   #4
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Humm... A C gaucho... any pictures?

Or are you talking a wrap around dinette, I'd have to build?
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Something like the L shaped lounge in the 23 foot?

colonial airstream has pictures there - in the seat, bed, and table configuration.

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Humm... A C gaucho... any pictures?

Or are you talking a wrap around dinette, I'd have to build?
Tim,

I am planning of a "U" shaped dinette in the front of the Liner, when I get that far. You got a problem with woodworking? You have the countertop down, the rest of the cabinetry should be easy.

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sorry no pix...

you'd likely have to build it for your exact space....

some what like a C shaped sofa or dinette only with a center slider board that pulls out on rails at the top/bottom on the C.

the 75th anniversay model uses a partial slider of this type to covert sofa to bed...

once the cushions are down it's a full size bed from the sofa/dinette configuration...

tall cushions along the walls serve to complete the sofa AND bedding....

gives storage on 3 sides too, under the seating platforms...

the center island table can be free standing or on a pedestal mount in the floor.

since there are no hinges or sofabed hardware the build is pretty easy...

perimeter framing supports, plywood seatbases and tambour or flat doors for storage....

high quality foam with zip-on custom upholstery and the rollup futon topper...

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Something like the L shaped lounge in the 23 foot?...Robyn
hi robyn...

YES! somewhat like the L shaped on in the 23...

only with the 3rd side included...

then the pullout is supported on 3 sides....

here is the link to colonials pics of the modern 23...

Colonial Airstream " Of New Jersey " Airstream New Inventory Updated Daily

while the lower doors are upholstered, they could be wood or laminate or tambour...

and the L shape works too, just a tad less seating....
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:05 AM   #9
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I just purchased a 3" memoryfoam topper to smooth over the crack in the cushions - Works great!
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Just a few ideas, these are web grabs.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:19 AM   #11
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That's pretty nice. Question is can a home handy man who only owns a skill saw and a jig saw build one that nice?

That table looks interesting too. Looks like it slides in somewhere out of the way.


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hi robyn...

YES! somewhat like the L shaped on in the 23...

only with the 3rd side included...

then the pullout is supported on 3 sides....

here is the link to colonials pics of the modern 23...

Colonial Airstream " Of New Jersey " Airstream New Inventory Updated Daily

while the lower doors are upholstered, they could be wood or laminate or tambour...

and the L shape works too, just a tad less seating....
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:13 AM   #12
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Thanks for the question

Tim, I am looking for solutions for my 55 FC. There are some great ideas here. I also really liked the open space with no gouchos. I've bee trying to think of things that fold up into a narrow wall cabinet space. Ive seen some tables in Airstreams that fold up in a similar way. The reason I would like to keep as much open space as possible is so I can have a large area to work on Art project while on a trip. Open for ideas from out there in Airstream ciber space.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:04 AM   #13
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Here is my problem.

I promised my wife a really nice couch/gaucho. We were talking Ultra Leather. I also want something comfortable. The gaucho foam couch in my '71 Safari was very uncomfortable for both a bed and couch.

But now that I look at the space, even a nice $$ gaucho will only sit like three. And it takes up the whole area.

Thats why the idea with this L shaped or U shaped apeals to me. The problem is can I make it nice like I promised and comfortable too?

Can I make a real couch that looks nice?
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:36 AM   #14
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Oh Tim Tim Tim.....

Whenever you start off with "I promise (dear)...." you have troubles. Yes, this is where you have your problem. Let's look at this another way... did you make any promises that you have not kept from when you proposed... (i.e. - big house, nice car, fancy shoes, certain number of children, won't watch football on Sundays AND Monday nights, beer with the boys, etc...) If you can answer that you've fullfilled these, then YES, I say go ahead and build your own goucho.

Let her know that YES, your self made goucho IS MORE COMFORTABLE then that nice Ultra leather couch.... fabric is warm vs. the cold leather, you won't make any embarrising noises when you move on it, and to top it off, you PERSONALLY INSPECTED THE FOAM for any type of bedbuds, critters, etc. Who knows WHAT is in the machine bought foam of the "germ infested" Ultra Leather Couch!

Any of that help? No?... hmmmmmm I say cut out football on Sundays and you've got it made in the shade!

Seriously though... how thick was the foam on your old seats. I made new cushions out of 6 inch high quality firm foam (certainly more expensive than the garden variety stuff), and it is very comfy to sit and sleep on. Personally, I view the large taper and crack in the middle of the sofas you see at Camping World and the like as very unfortable. I'd take my cushions any day!

Good luck - I say go with the wraparound. See Sequoiacoast's wrap around for a nice inspiration. I'd bet she might help you out!
Good luck..... uh... how warm is the doghouse at night?
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