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Old 04-29-2004, 11:38 AM   #29
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Has anyone tried taking the vinyl off the aluminum walls and door? If so ,how did you do it and how did it turn out? silver suz
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Old 04-29-2004, 07:07 PM   #30
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Another vote for Super Clean from Castrol. The results simply were incredible.

The floor wax idea has some appeal to me, now that the walls are clean. It should make future cleanup possible with just a damp sponge.

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Old 04-29-2004, 07:46 PM   #31
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Has anyone tried taking the vinyl off the aluminum walls and door? If so ,how did you do it and how did it turn out? silver suz
Here's a link to an earlier thread that goes into this pretty indepth...

Good luck if your decide to persue this option...

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Old 05-01-2004, 09:16 AM   #32
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Ok, I found the castrol super clean at wally-world...it is in the automotive department. all they had was a gallon jug of concentrate...no "pre-mix". So my next question is: how did you dilute the stuff? or did you use it straight? what concentration works for the "sticky"?
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Old 05-01-2004, 01:14 PM   #33
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Ok, I found the castrol super clean at wally-world...it is in the automotive department. all they had was a gallon jug of concentrate...no "pre-mix". So my next question is: how did you dilute the stuff? or did you use it straight? what concentration works for the "sticky"?
I have only seen it sold as a concentrate.

For the vinyl walls, I mixed mine at 25% of full strength, sprayed it on, and waited about 30-45 seconds, then just wiped it off.

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beware

after reading all these posts, I decided on Super Clean, but couldn't find it today in two Walmarts with help from 5 employees. Maybe that's a good thing--read on from a post I found on the Web. I can't vouch for it.
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I recommend NOT using super clean on any surface made of aluminum or
coated items. Further, it is not as non toxic as people may think (usually
people associate toxicity with volatility).

Super clean is made from sodium hydroxide, NaOH. This is a very strong
base, despite some dilution. I use sodium hydroxide as an etchant for
aluminum pieces in preparation for plating and anodization. Very harsh on
aluminum. Red Devil drain opener has this base, but in powdered form.
Heats up on contact with water. If anyone wants to experiment, make a
solution of Red Devil and water, insert an empty soda can. Come back 1/2
hour later.

NaOH will remove any type of color and hard anodization. You can use it
for a few minutes, but do ya wanna take a chance? I took a chance on my
very expensive mountain bike's very expensive hard anodized chainrings.
Faded the anodization and the teeth are wearing fast. Some have
recommended this stuff for intercoolers and radiators. Very bad. Use
Simple green or a petroleum based cleaner/solvent. >>

Super clean is great for cleaning very dirty leather or cloth but beware
after awhile the tanning.Color will be removed. And don't breath the stuff
very nasty.
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yeah, and dihydrogen monoxide is a highly corrosive industrial solvent, yet I use it quite often for cleaning my airstream, even though I know for a fact that it has been, and continues to be the root cause of numerous airstream frame failures, and a myriad of other problems, including the dreaded "rear-end seperation".

"Super Clean" may not be appropriate for bare alluminum, but thats not where I'm using it. I'm using it on sticky, grimy vinyl wall paper, and on that, it works great, and after 2 years, I've yet to see it do any harm.

otoh...I used some simple green on my stainless-steel oven door, and it etched and pitted the surface. now its wrecked.
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Chuck, I'm actually still thinking of using the Super Clean, but will be more cautious about making sure I get it all off and that I minimize the amount that goes through the open screw and rivet holes to the other side of the interior skin.

What is the common name of the dihydrogen..., of for crap's sake.....I will find you and it won't be pleasant!
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beware, the evils of dihydrogen monoxide!
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http://www.dhmo.org

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You should try Marine Clean from the Por 15 folks. It is safe and will clean the sticky walls and the outside of the trailer too. I have used it on my 78 Argosy with great results. The only drawback might be the fact that you have to rinse it, but it rinses easily with just a wet cloth on the inside walls. I have touch-up painted my Argosy myself and the Marine Clean has not bothered my paint job. Balrgn told me about this product and he was right about everything he said. You will like it.
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Chuck, a couple of questions. Did you have your interior walls out when you used the Super Clean? Mine are all out right now and neatly stacked on the back porch. I want to clean them before they go back in simply because I think it will be easier. You mentioned that you used it two years ago. Did you only have to use it once two years ago and the "sticky" stayed away permanently? Did you use the Future floor wax treatment after cleaning?

Juel, thanks for the Marine Clean tip.
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The underlying cause of sticky walls is the spewing and oxidation of the plasticiser used to make the vinyl coating flexible. Your cleaner has to dissolve this material. Dirt sticks to this coating like crazy. It will also interact with any coating you put on top of it. Get it off and seal the remaining surface with a coating material to prevent future spew. Acrylic floorwax (Future or the like) has demonstrated good durability. If you have to redo it in the future the acylic floor wax stripper is also a good dissolver for the sticky stuff. I would stay away from anything which contains sodium hydoxide or ammonia hydroxide as any metal hydroxide is corrosive to aluminum. Di-hydrogen monoxide (H2O) is simply water. Nice joke but not much help.
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Di-hydrogen monoxide (H2O) is simply water. Nice joke but not much help.
well, it should help. the joke is meant to illustrate a point, and that is that anything can be dangerous, if misused, and alarmist claims don't always paint the whole picture.

fact: dihydrogen monoxide is highly corrosive. it will disolve steel. (and alluminum, too, if you've got the time). The words, though, imply something much worse than reality, even though they are absolutely true.
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Chuck, a couple of questions. Did you have your interior walls out when you used the Super Clean? Mine are all out right now and neatly stacked on the back porch. I want to clean them before they go back in simply because I think it will be easier. You mentioned that you used it two years ago. Did you only have to use it once two years ago and the "sticky" stayed away permanently? Did you use the Future floor wax treatment after cleaning?

Juel, thanks for the Marine Clean tip.
good heavens, no! the walls are where the factory left them. I just sprayed on/wiped off. maybe rinse with a wet sponge afterward. Yours will be easy to do, as you can just hose 'em off when clean.

the "sticky" will come back; but all I've had to do since is a light touch up, probably no different than everyone's typical spring cleaning. It was a chore initially, because the "sticky", and the dirt that stuck to it, built up for years in all those crevaces. But its not a big deal to maintain if you keep on top of it, like anything else.

didn't do the "floor wax" thing. looks like a neat idea...but I guess I'm just not that anal about it.
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