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Old 02-11-2003, 02:26 PM   #15
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Martha,

Any vinyl/rubber protectant is a good idea for an Airstream. A liberal application every six months will go a long way to protecting your trailers rubber and vinyl components!


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Old 02-11-2003, 02:41 PM   #16
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Interesting thread!

We have the sticky wall syndome and were baffled by it. Do any other owners paint the walls? Once you put the Future on would it then be impossible to paint later because of the wax?
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Old 02-11-2003, 03:19 PM   #17
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Vinyl wll protection.

Vinyl wall/rubber protectant is a temporary fix. Future floor acrylic is permanent.
It can be removed simply by using warm soapy water with ammonia.
Why would someone take off the Future floor acrylic and want to paint the walls?
Sticky walls can be cleaned. Not easy, but they can be cleaned. Then the acrylic is applied, usually 2 coats.
Painting vinyl material is not as easy as it sounds. First, the sticky must be removed. Secondly, the vinyl must be sanded, very well, with 120 grit sandpaper.
Then and only then, can the vinyl be painted, using the correct type of paints.
If the vinyl material is not sanded, the paint will peel in just a few months. Likewise, if the wrong paints are used.


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Sticky walls can be cleaned. Not easy, but they can be cleaned
They can be cleaned, and easily at that.

The walls inside our 1971 were excellent fly paper. I bet they had never been cleaned.
We cleaned them in just a few minutes with the most amazing grease dissolver:

Super Clean from Castrol.

Is it safe for vinyl? you ask or how we discovered Super Clean:

We had bought a used 20'X20' vinyl tent. It was coated with every type of dirt, and a lot of tree sap. For months we tried suggestions from friends and strangers. From Simple Green to Fantastick, to industrial stuff we never heard about before. With a lot of work, we cleaned about 1 square foot.

Then, frustrated, I made a last attempt and without any testing, I just spilled some Super Clean on it. Mike nearly had a heart attack: it looked like the vinyl had melted. It changed from a dirty brown to the original white and yellow in a flash.

About $5 or $6 a gallon at WalMart. For general household cleaning, reduce it by 16/1.
It should not be left to sit too long on glass or aluminium. Just rince it off, we never had any damage. This is the only cleaner we use. (wear gloves: I didn't. No problems the first times, then it soaks the grease out of our skin !!!)

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I have some Super Clean. I will give it a try!

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Old 04-01-2004, 09:43 PM   #20
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castrol super clean is the stuff!

thanks to femuse!

i got some superclean. working on my second airstream, 72 tradewind.

fmy partner loralee tried washing is diluted about 4 parts water one part super clean.

looked pretty good. then, i tried spraying it on full strength. in moments the droplets of cleaner had turned muddy brown. let it sit for a minute or two and wiped it off with a wet rag and clean water.

unbelieveable. the vinyl walls looked brand new and the whole coloration of the inside went several shades lighter and less yellow. and no sticky whatsoever!

next the future. also, doing a custom rebuild from scratch of a 64 sovereign. what a project. stripped it to the alum bones. here are a few pics:

www.softshui.com/ontheroad\airstreamupdate

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Old 04-02-2004, 12:28 AM   #21
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I'm gonna try some of that Super stuff. will be at WM this w/e.
I have had similer results with Citrus cleaner and degreaser , put out by ZEP.
From Home Depot. Full strenth the sticky stuff runs in brown streams. I delute it kinda strong and use a sponge. I do'nt have a problem useing bare hands with it, but I recommend gloves with all strong cleaners. Then wipe with clean water.
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I think the Future Wax is a wonderful invention. But I do have some resavations about the long-term effect. I do know Future wax will yellow in time. Has anyone notice the yellowing or is it to early to know the long-term effects of future wax. Yes, I do realize it is always possible to strip the wax and start over every two years, (just a arbitrary number on worst case seniero). Anyone with suggestion, thoughts or experience on future wax in the long term?

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One of our customers applied future floor acrylic some 12 years ago.

It looks as good as the day he applied it.

No discoloration at all.

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where in WM do you find this "super clean"? automotive department? or the general houshold cleaner department?
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In the retoring of 1973 Argosy I found 409 Citrus and it is great. Spray it on and watch the dirt and gtime roll off and no rinsing. Great stuff.

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Dear Kechari, we too, are at the aluminum stripped bare 72 sov. stage What insulation did you use in your trailer?. It's really beautiful- a labor of love! silver suz
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Thanks Andy, I guess that's all I needed to know. 12 years sounds good to me. I have cleaned my wall with Tilex and using little nail brush to clean texture finish (Works great to get all that little stuff out). The result was wonderful. Now with a coat of future ,I guess I will be getting the new $5.00 interior upgrade.
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We used "Scrubbing Bubbles" Bathroom Cleaner, it did a good job! I will have to wait until I reinstall some of the interior panels before I can Future Wax them

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