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08-21-2013, 07:20 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2008 22' Safari
2000 27' Safari
Asheville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
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Source for new mouse fur/oxtite ?
What started as a simple cleaning project has turn into a total re-do on our brand new to us 2000 27'Safari. ( selling the 2008 22' safari SE) Oxyclean didn't get the black stains out of the wall covering. Next move is to call Stanley Steamer. Just in case that doesn't work either, where have folks found a source for the oxtite? Their website shows very few dealers.
Thanks in advance!
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08-21-2013, 07:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Wildwood
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,236
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Would love to know myself.. Had the same issue. Little project turned into a complete redo!
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08-21-2013, 08:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I wish I could get rid of the mouse fur altogether and have aluminum skin on the interior walls.
Who thought something fuzzy and white was a good idea?
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08-21-2013, 09:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
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If the black stains are where rivets are under the "mouse fur," they are from aluminum dust and can't be removed with any normal cleaning methods.
Long ago I wrote: "Take a look at this thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f46/...tml#post671830 .
I will repeat what I wrote there:
'We had dark stains on our fuzzy walls from the aluminum dust where inside rivets have vibrated. If the walls did not have the fuzzy stuff, I am sure the rivets would have dropped out onto the floor. We hid the spots rather easily although the solution did not occur to us immediately.
What we did was mix up a small amount of artist's acrylic paint (usually comes in tubes) to match the color of the fuzz. That we applied to the stained area with a small, stiff artist's brush, working it thoroughly into the stained backing of the fuzz. We only put the paint on the stained area.
We let the paint dry almost completely and then rubbed the fuzz where the paint was with denatured alcohol which took the paint out of the fuzz, but left it on the backing.
Our touch-up has now lasted years and you really must know where to look to find the spots.' "
If the stains are not from aluminum dust, one of the best ways to remove them is with peroxide (the antiseptic sold in drugstores). More than one application is often necessary.
Tim
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08-22-2013, 04:52 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Who thought something fuzzy and white was a good idea?
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Probably NOT a good idea for trailers. Good idea for Interstates, though, because the fuzzy surface help reduce reverberation and gets rid of that "riding inside a tin can" impression that you get from other Sprinter-based motorhomes.
Although mine is fuzzy and tan, not fuzzy and white. Because of the color, I've been reluctant to use peroxide, so I've been using Resolve spray-on carpet cleaner to clean mine. Seems to work, but I don't have aluminum dust on mine, either, so no guarantee it would work for you.
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08-23-2013, 01:10 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2008 22' Safari
2000 27' Safari
Asheville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
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Just to make sure this project didn't go too easily ...had Stanley Steemer out to look at the ozite/mouse fur walls. The tech said he's worked for them for 27 years, and about guaranteed that the stream would detach it from the walls, and strongly recommended we NOT do it. Then I called the oldest Airstream dealer in the area (out of doors world I think it was called) and the parts guy said he couldn't find a listing for the wall covering anywhere . I feel like I'm lost in the land of Oz-ite.
Also want to apologize for the mix-spelling of ozite in the original thread... Can't find a way to change it now.
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08-23-2013, 01:20 PM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2003
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That fabric is also called "Frontrunner" and should be available at most larger upholstry supply houses.
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08-23-2013, 01:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,310
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If the wall covering falls down it can be glued back into place with 3M Super 77 spray adhesive.
Last year when I reworked the inside of my trailer I had the wall coverings off. I let them soak in the oxyclean and scrubbed the heck out of them. It looked better but not perfect. I glued everything back in place.
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08-27-2013, 01:35 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2008 22' Safari
2000 27' Safari
Asheville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
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FOUND IT!! Source for mouse fur/frontrunner/ fabric. Other places were charging over $20 a running yard...this place has it for $16.95.
72" Marine Hulliner (Headliner) Fabric Just in case the link doesn't work, the site is: yourautotrim.com. Then look up " hull liner". Have decided to put the camper back together as is, spend a season in it, and see if it still feels worth the aggravation to re-do the walls. Putting down new cork plank floors feels like enough for now...but wanted to share the resource.
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08-27-2013, 03:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzmsw
FOUND IT!! Source for mouse fur/frontrunner/ fabric. Other places were charging over $20 a running yard...this place has it for $16.95.
72" Marine Hulliner (Headliner) Fabric Just in case the link doesn't work, the site is: yourautotrim.com. Then look up " hull liner". Have decided to put the camper back together as is, spend a season in it, and see if it still feels worth the aggravation to re-do the walls. Putting down new cork plank floors feels like enough for now...but wanted to share the resource.
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I have what I beleive is this marine headliner in the cabin of my boat and it is different than what is in my Airstream. It has a smaller weave to it. If you are doing a total redo in your trailer it will be fine, but if you are trying to match the existing, you may want to request some sample swatches to see what it's like. Might be a good idea to do this anyway. Oh and by the way, I was looking for a source for my boat mousefur so thanks mucho for the link!!
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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08-27-2013, 04:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I wish I could get rid of the mouse fur altogether and have aluminum skin on the interior walls.
Who thought something fuzzy and white was a good idea?
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I love the look of the interior aluminum skin. When we spent the day comparing Airstreams in 100 degree + heat, we noticed that the ones with the vinyl padded headliners and mousefur were cooler inside than the ones with the aluminum interiors. We checked with an instant read thermometer and we were right. They were generally about 10 degrees cooler inside. I'm sure the number of windows played into this too, but now you can justify the fuzzy white interior!
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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08-27-2013, 10:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,554
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Ozite ( Motor Home-RV | Ozite – Textile Specialists since 1864 ) and other such headliners provide a bit more insulation inside of the aluminum interior skin. The result will be lower inside temperatures when the weather is hot and warmer temperatures when the weather is cold. The thickness of the Ozite also gives a more gradual transition from the interior temperature to the outside temperature. We happen to like that because we often camp where outside temps are low and that transition helps control interior condensation.
Does it look as nice as aluminum? No. There are always trade-offs.
By the way, some concern was expressed about using peroxide on off-white Ozite. We have had no problem with the peroxide bleaching our trailer's Ozite lighter than its original color.
Tim
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10-12-2013, 01:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 837
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Peroxide question......when you guys use peroxide, do you just use the peroxide that you buy in the drug stores, or did you get the higher percentage that the hair stylists, and use?
We're in a major remodeling of our 2001 Excella. The interior furniture is removed, and it would be a good time to attempt a thorough cleaning of the sidewalls...
Thanks for any guidance
Larry
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10-14-2013, 10:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,554
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We have always used the antiseptic-type peroxide from a drug store. Sometimes it is necessary to apply it more than once to a stained area. Oh, it is also worthwhile to wait overnight to see if the stain goes away. The peroxide does not work instantly.
Tim
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