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Old 09-07-2011, 11:10 AM   #1
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plastering interior walls of an airstream?

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just read this website--they used American Clay to plaster the interior walls of this "green airstream"--we were thinking that this would crack over time & usage--any knowledge of this, anyone?
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:09 PM   #2
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I think it would *ONLY* be practical for a trailer that was not likely to ever move again. Plaster is brittle, and Airstreams are flexible. This is not a good combination.
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A misnomer to use the term 'plastering' in this instance I believe, they have prepped (ruined) the liners then added a primer-bonding coat with three coats of clay fortified 'paint' to cover the liners - so in effect it is an acrylic based modified paint.

Dryvit Products would be a good choice if one wanted to do an actual 'stucco' plaster. This is the stuff on huge projects they seal newly-insulation-wrapped retrofitted buildings with, they've got base coats to go over ANY material from Foams to bare metal...
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Having been in construction for a number of years (my past life) and taught plastering amoung other things, my first question would be why? My first comment would be no.
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Must not be giving their link enough reading time -- I don't see if American Clay has a bonding agent specific for aluminum. Fine if they do...

Even in a trailer never intended to move again, I'd have to believe that interior seams would reopen under any circumstances.

Green? That's a pretty new Airstream not far removed from the smelters. Looks like a fairly new Dodge diesel to pull it too. Greener yet would have been recycling by restoring an old Airstream. That coming from a green dude with moss growing on the north side of his ankles...
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:19 AM   #6
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I personally saw that Airstream,and have been inside of it (bought a few parts from them). I gotta tell you that the plaster looks fantastic! I'm not an expert on its longevity in a trailer, but from an asthetic perspective: it looks great, consistent color and a real finished look. It really warms up the interior and provides a consistent finished look to the trailer. Those girls are going on a two year road trip in the next few month so they will have direct experience to report back on the durability of the plaster.
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The PO of our trailer has the bright idea to plaster over the paint over the zolatone. Luckily they only got through one endcap like that before stopping (literally it looked like the equivalent of stopping mid-brush stroke on a paintjob) .

Anyway, my feedback is this:
It was not cracked anywhere. Apparently it either flexed well or the layers of paint and zolatone stretched for it. Whatever type it was, it adhered well. Better than zolatone. Scraping did not work well due to the curves and fear of scratching the aluminum, and even paint stripper took multiple passes.

But please, for the sake of future airstream owners everywhere, do not use it!
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Greener yet would have been recycling by restoring an old Airstream..
Green is pretty vague as a philosophy, isn't it. I completely agree with you, and in fact the biggest sustainability gains often aren't the prettiest.

Some plastic Boler Burro that was headed for a landfill probably would've been a "greener" choice than a brand new trailer than a new one (they did find homes for much of what they've removed), as well as turning a discarded diesel truck into your veggie-mobile vs. a 2006 Ram.

Just as I think adopting an older, frumpy dog - perhaps with medical issues - from the pound is a more noble commitment than rescuing the cute little puppy everyone wants... walking the "green" talk is often about putting appearances and aesthetics aside, and making a bigger difference.
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Green? That's a pretty new Airstream not far removed from the smelters. Looks like a fairly new Dodge diesel to pull it too. Greener yet would have been recycling by restoring an old Airstream. That coming from a green dude with moss growing on the north side of his ankles...
my thoughts exactly--to me, keeping a 17 year old car on the road vs buying a new "green" one is the obvious choice. Ditto redoing old trailers rather than green fitting something new. We always look for used way before thinking new.

I don't want to trash what these Aistreamers are doing, there are many ways to live your life, right? But i really was curious about the clay, & wanted to get you all's opinion on it.
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my thoughts exactly--to me, keeping a 17 year old car on the road vs buying a new "green" one is the obvious choice. Ditto redoing old trailers rather than green fitting something new. We always look for used way before thinking new.

I don't want to trash what these Aistreamers are doing, there are many ways to live your life, right? But i really was curious about the clay, & wanted to get you all's opinion on it.
Just make sure that the vehicle you keep on the road has good emissions standards, or you update the cat appropriately. Otherwise it defeats the purpose. Despite how stringent our gasoline and ULSD regs are (esp in Cali), tailpipe emissions still exist, and on older vehicles without good control systems, are absolutely horrible.

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Just make sure that the vehicle you keep on the road has good emissions standards, or you update the cat appropriately. Otherwise it defeats the purpose. Despite how stringent our gasoline and ULSD regs are (esp in Cali), tailpipe emissions still exist, and on older vehicles without good control systems, are absolutely horrible.

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good point--I should check on this--NJ Motor vehicle inspection seems pretty strict on emissions since we quite often are tagged on this--but I don't know exactly what the standards are.
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