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Old 02-14-2016, 06:01 PM   #1
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Painting all interior surfaces

We just purchased our first AS, a 1979 31' Sovereign this past week and are about to begin updating her. The interior surfaces are terribly sticky and yellowed, and we want to paint it all - walls and cabinets - white. The cabinets seem to be some sort of wood look veneer over plywood. The tall panel that runs floor to ceiling next to the fridge is peeling, as well as a few other places. The "wallpaper" int eh shower is also peeling at the top. I have read several threads on here regarding recommendations for different products to prep, prime and paint, but there doesn't seem to be any clear recommendation as most have painted over something existing or didn't have stellar results. Can anyone recommend a method and/or products that are tried and true? We plan to keep this AS for well over 15 years until we become empty nesters and want to make sure our finishes hold up - we want to do it right the first (and hopefully only) time.

The gentleman at Lowe's in the paint department recommended cleaning with TSP, priming with BIN, and then painting with whatever paint we wanted. I'm still nervous about the plastic surfaces though, especially the trim on the edges of the cabinets. I was thinking oil based paint, but want to confirm those recommendations with someone who's been there and done it before we start. Don't want any regrets.

Thanks in advance for all of your help. We're really excited about getting her updated and on the road - hopefully by the time school lets out for summer!

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Old 02-14-2016, 07:32 PM   #2
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Where do I begin......

Painting your interior, especially the walls will be the first thing you will regret doing, as it will eventually start peeling and flaking off. The second thing you will regret, will be painting the interior walls or cabinetry as they too will begin to start peeling and flaking off.

Don't do it....period.

Take out the interior as much as possible and clean up the walls with Spray Nine. You would be surprised at how much gook and crud Spray Nine will get off. Then evaluate the results. If you still are unsatisfied with the results, may I suggest a 3M Dii-noc Weave vinyl sheeting to be applied by a proffesional to the interior.

As for the cabinetry, you could strip and repaint but you may find it easier to take the cabinetry to a local woodworking and ask them to replace it with a Dominoed face frame cabinetry that would be painted properly with a durable catalyzed laquer.

I used the 3M Weave on most interior surfaces other than the walls and built my own cabinets.

Before pictures of my 310's interior.

http://www.viewrvs.com/motorhome/air...1983_310_k.php

After pictures.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...s-97332-4.html

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Old 02-14-2016, 07:41 PM   #3
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We painted the interior of our safari several years ago. We used TSP, a good bonding primer, and a good latex paint.

This was at least 5 years ago. The finish shows absolutely no signs of flaking, chalking, or deterioration.
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We painted almost everything white in our '77 Overlander with either Krylon Fusion for plastics or an AceHardware brand primer and paint 2 years ago. It adhered wonderfully and we are happy as can be with it. Not a single regret. We camped in it 100 nights the first year so it has seen some heavy use. It feels wonderful inside! We have a '97 Excella we wouldn't consider doing that to as it is just a different animal.
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Its all in the prep as to how it will turn out. All the light blue that you see in ours had the dark walnut vinyl on them.
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Where do I begin......

Painting your interior, especially the walls will be the first thing you will regret doing, as it will eventually start peeling and flaking off. The second thing you will regret, will be painting the interior walls or cabinetry as they too will begin to start peeling and flaking off.

Don't do it....period.

Take out the interior as much as possible and clean up the walls with Spray Nine. You would be surprised at how much gook and crud Spray Nine will get off. Then evaluate the results. If you still are unsatisfied with the results, may I suggest a 3M Dii-noc Weave vinyl sheeting to be applied by a proffesional to the interior.

As for the cabinetry, you could strip and repaint but you may find it easier to take the cabinetry to a local woodworking and ask them to replace it with a Dominoed face frame cabinetry that would be painted properly with a durable catalyzed laquer.

I used the 3M Weave on most interior surfaces other than the walls and built my own cabinets.

Before pictures of my 310's interior.

http://www.viewrvs.com/motorhome/air...1983_310_k.php

After pictures.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311...s-97332-4.html

Cheers
Tony
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Do it properly. clean the surface...use the expensive but bulletproof BIN primer...and you will never see peeling ever. it s one of the best way to refresh the interior....make it look clean and nice. Krylon fusion for the plastic surface is another very simple and effective way to refresh the inside.

I done this with many trailers.... no issue so far... never regretted it!
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:01 PM   #7
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I've shared these many times before but I LOVE it so much I'll do it again. 😍
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If the surface is prepped properly, it will not peel.

I would sand as well as clean.

I didn't mention that above.


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Paddledipper, thanks so much for the photos! I've seen your photos several times on here and always are drawn to them - love the white and the bright colors. I do believe I have your photos on my Pinterest board!

Do you mind elaborating on what you used the Krylon Fusion for and what you used the Ace primer & paint for? Also, what did you do to prep the surfaces? And was the Ace paint oil based or latex? Thanks so much!
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Cleaned lightly with Clorox Clean Up. I didn't have any of the sticky residue so many others have dealt with. Krylon for end caps, all the bathroom surfaces including the countertop, tub and shower stall and all tambor doors. Click image for larger version

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Does Painting the inside, even with the best. take away value?
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we decided to strip all the vinyl off which left a really nice aluminum finish which looks like the brand new airstreams. See my youtube video on this "Airstream, How to remove vinyl from the interior walls".
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So the krylon works for the tub and sink too? How many years has the Krylon been applied to these areas? Did you lightly sand these areas first?
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It has been on for 2 years now with an average of 75-100 nights and almost double that number of showers. I lightly sanded I'm sure I could have done a better job sanding, cleaning after sanding and I could have applied a thicker coat of paint but it was my first experience and do consider it a success. The Krylon melds onto the existing surface like it is one in the same. There are some spots on the edge of the counter where we brush as we pass by and bottom of the tub where it is rubbing thin but another sanding and spray should cover those spots when the time comes. They're not bad enough to worry about yet. The way that spray paint covers the tambor doors was probably the most surprising and pleasing part of all. I used the Krylon Fusion for Plastics in another color on an over bed light cover and that has worked well also. I certainly am no paint expert and this has all been just a fun hobby for us but we've had excellent experience with the Krylon for Fusion for Plastic and have seen many other success stories as well! Love to see pictures of other's experiences.
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