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07-19-2013, 10:25 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1969 29' Ambassador
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10
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New aluminum skin interior
Any thoughts on installing aluminum paneling vertical vs horizontal?
Thx
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07-19-2013, 10:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,322
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There are folks who believe that the interior skins become part of the "structure," and I suppose they do to a limited extent. It just seems like there are so few rivets holding them in place that it is hard to believe they really support anything. Anyway, if you buy into this, then installing them vertically instead of length-wise could cause your shell to be more flexible from end to end.
If you go ahead with the vertical install, ideally you would have the edges of the aluminum coincident with a rib, if not you'll run into trouble supporting it, much like an unsupported floorboard. If the aluminum has a brushed or machined appearance, installing vertically may cause it to look aesthetically wonky, ie., if the grain is going vertically, instead of with the axis of the trailer.
What is your goal in doing it vertically, as opposed to length-wise?
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07-19-2013, 11:21 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1969 29' Ambassador
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10
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Interestingly enough, the exterior is created horizontally. My metal fabricator, thought doing it horizontally would be easier and require less panels. The corners as one would suspect will pose the most challenges because of the curved nature. Thoughts?
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07-19-2013, 12:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,322
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Corners?
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07-19-2013, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tedboxer
Interestingly enough, the exterior is created horizontally. My metal fabricator, thought doing it horizontally would be easier and require less panels. The corners as one would suspect will pose the most challenges because of the curved nature. Thoughts?
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I reskinned using the original layout basically. Many of the panels could be used in their original 4' wide configuration. Have him do a layout to see where the joints end up, where the ribs are and how may sheets he needs. I believe it will be a tougher install with more cuts, a bit more scrap and more metal.
One other item, if you plan on leaving it bare, make sure ALL of the panels have the mill finnish going the same direction or it will look odd.
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07-19-2013, 12:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 24' Tradewind
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 252
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I reskinned mine horizontally and pretty much used the old skins as templates. Since my metal had a mill finish, it all ran the same way. I then made new endcaps from the same metal. I felt like it added to the structural integrity to run it horizontally, but then again I am not an engineer or anything.
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07-19-2013, 02:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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TedBoxer
Your metal fabricator is probably right.
My experience is limited to the renovation of my own 1976 Argosy but all the original factory panels on the trailer, inside and out, were run horizontally. There must be a good reason for that.
You can cut and bend sheets to fit the Airstream compound curves. See post #59 here:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...e-18448-5.html
Good luck,
Sergei
entire rig soon to be available
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07-19-2013, 05:16 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1969 29' Ambassador
Dallas
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10
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Thanks guys for all the reply's, I think horizontal is the right call. Anybody have an idea on aluminum gauge? My guy suggested .032.
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07-19-2013, 05:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tedboxer
Thanks guys for all the reply's, I think horizontal is the right call. Anybody have an idea on aluminum gauge? My guy suggested .032.
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I have done 3003 .025 and it is easy to ding. I'm using .032 on the one I'm doing right now.
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07-20-2013, 07:01 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 102
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I don't know exactly when Airstream stopped using aluminum on the interior, (mid 60's?) but I would imagine the aluminum interior units provide more structural integrity than the vinyl covered pressboard of later models. Not as many rivets as exterior, but the geometry of flexed rigid sheet material such as aluminum over non-rigid products as vinyl clad pressboard, must have its advantages. It seems to me that until the rivets on the interior begin to allow the skin to move by stress factors, it would be as structurally supportive as the ext. skin.
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07-30-2013, 05:41 PM
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New Member
1976 31' Excella 500
Clarkesville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2013
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I'm just looking at an airstream project but if I do it I'm gonna want aluminum interior panels, where do you get them????
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08-17-2013, 02:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
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04-16-2014, 06:20 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Woodridge
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 22
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Interior Aluminum Install
Hello
Does anybody have install pics or instructions as to how to efficently/correctly install the aluminum panels on the interior
Thanks for any help
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04-16-2014, 07:03 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Come to the Vintage Trailer Academy and you will see a great presentation on interior skin fabrication and installation
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