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03-22-2011, 06:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 34' Excella
Lander
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 24
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Need new wall panel ideas?
Hello Everyone,
I have a confession to make, I really really dislike my plastic wall panels. Bordering on hate.
I want to replace them with anything else, but preferably I want to put up plain aluminum, like a new international trailer. I am sure we could take the panels down, but I am worried we would need get new ones back up. Do we just send the old one out to get matched? I saw some people recommending places that work with aluminum, is that the kind of company I need to work with?
Any help would be appreciated?
Thanks
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03-22-2011, 07:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,073
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Don't feel bad. I hate plastic.
Doctor joke.. "Are you allergic to anything?" "Yes, Plastic".
That is a huge job that you are talking about doing. You might be able to put new panels over the existing ones.
Offhand this seems like a combination of skills... the aesthetic sensibilities of a good interior trim carpenter type, and skill working with sheet metal.
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03-22-2011, 11:09 PM
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Crazy Montanan in Texas
Currently Looking...
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 167
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When I do my own trailer I am planning on using thin hardwood plywood and giving it a nice stain and adding aluminum accents to make it have a really nice air streamy feel.
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04-09-2011, 05:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 34' Excella
Lander
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 24
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Are you sure? They are cracked on the end caps in the corners? They look and sound like plastic when you tap on them. I mean my trailer is a 1992.
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04-09-2011, 05:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,073
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Earlier you said panels, now you are saying end caps. Panels would be the walls. End caps would be the end caps. The end caps are probably plastic. The walls are probably aluminum coated on the inside with plastic.
Stripping the plastic off of the wall panels, I imagine, would be a nasty job.
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04-10-2011, 05:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 34' Excella
Lander
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 24
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I mean all of it wall panels and end caps. Obviously if I just changed one or the other it would look mismatched and silly since it is all in the same greyish yellowish pattern, and I am assuming made out of the same stuff. I was hoping to get a definitive answer about the material that makes up the wall panels/ end caps for a early 90's 34'excella.
If I just want to flat out replace them, I want to know what my options are beside ordering brand new panels through some sort of airstream part service center or dealership.
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04-10-2011, 06:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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"Brand new panels" to replace your existing ones would be just plain sheet aluminum. You can buy that from Airparts or Aircraft Spruce, places like that for MUCH cheaper than if buying through Airstream. It comes in sheets as long as you want and you would replace those just as with exterior panels. It's a lot of work - but not hard we have replaced several panels on both the inside & out between our two trailers.
But the end caps are another thing completely...if you have plastic, that's what they were that year - it's unlikely end caps for current trailers would fit and if they were plastic to begin with, replacements that fit would also be plastic. Also, the end caps are compound curves in late model (since the 50's) trailers - not something that can be custom made easily. I know some pros can work with the new end caps and sometimes cut out pieces that work for replacing exterior caps, They might be able to work the same magic and create interior panels, but it wouldn't be easy or cheap.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do...my guess is if you want to change the look, paint is going to be your best option...or a newer (or much older!) trailer with the exposed aluminum panels.
Shari
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04-11-2011, 06:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 34' Excella
Lander
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 24
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OK Good to know.
Thank you Shari, you have confirmed what I believed to be true--replacing the endcaps could prove to be exceedingly difficult.
When I pull down the wall panels, I will be able to look at and access all the wiring, is that correct?
Can you tell me more about your experience replacing the wall panels? Rivet guns and matching everything back up etc?
I am surprised there is not a company that specializes in making end caps for different model years. My Uncle had an idea about making a mold from the old end caps and using some kind of special explosive to "press" an aluminum sheet into the mold. I have to admit I have not tried it.
Any thoughts about it? I saw the beautiful one that the artist from Iowa made out of birch. I thought that was amazing!
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04-11-2011, 06:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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Minamyna...we disliked the vinyl walls as well. Ours had tented over the years and had to come off. We opted for a woven wall covering we found at Sherwin Williams. Removed the vinyl, rough sanded, and wallpaper glue worked great. There were many different types of wall coverings to choose from.
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04-11-2011, 06:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 31' Sovereign
Madison
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 120
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04-12-2011, 06:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Severna Park
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 103
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31' of polished interior aluminum...
Stripping and polishing, as others have said, is a lot of work. But like you I wasn't a big fan of the wall paper. The wall paper comes off with VERY strong paint stripper. Keep in mind that polishing the interior means holding the buffer over your head for hours and hours) to do the ceiling. The panels can be stripped and polished in place. That's how I did it and would recommend. The plastic-like end caps I will paint a medium-gray to complement the aluminum using a high grade automotive paint.
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04-20-2011, 08:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Sorry I didn't reply sooner...we were on the road, yeah!
Quote:
Originally Posted by minamyna
I pull down the wall panels, I will be able to look at and access all the wiring, is that correct?
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Yep, all the wiring is exposed when a panel is removed.
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Originally Posted by minamyna
Can you tell me more about your experience replacing the wall panels? Rivet guns and matching everything back up etc?
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Here's a link to our '56 Safari restoration thread...check out posts starting around #209 for some panel replacement info ~
Even though the year of our trailer is different from yours, the task of replacing panels is pretty much the same.
Shari
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04-21-2011, 04:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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hi i like the look of the woven wall covering! is that sold by the yard or sq foot? how much was it?
thx
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07-27-2015, 06:23 AM
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New Member
NAPLES
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2
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I just purchased a 31' rear bath 69' do these have the aluminum rear walls behind the vinyl I don't want to start the project to find out they don't, thanks.
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07-27-2015, 07:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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Yes. If you want to verify find an inconspicuous spot and scrape a tiny spot off with a razor.
End caps are plastic.
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07-27-2015, 07:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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One option
Birch paneling with aluminum flat bar trim.
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08-25-2015, 09:21 AM
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New Member
Lovington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BambiTex
Birch paneling with aluminum flat bar trim.
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Just curious, did you overlay the birch over the original aluminum panel or remove the aluminum panel and attach the birch? I have an old Streamline trailer I'm redoing and have all the interior panels removed. Would love to go back with the wood panels.
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