First, I would definitely recommend against Zolatone. It is a fantastic paint but it can be extremely tricky to apply, especially if you are painting around contours. It requires a sprayer with a pressurized paint cup, and oversized nozzle. It also needs to be applied between 70 and 80 degrees with low humidity. It will set you back a grand or more for the primer, paint, and special equipment to spray it. It says it covers 120 sq ft / gallon, but it is really half of that to get full coverage. You need a contrasting color of primer to see when you have complete coverage. If you spray white over white, you will never get the uniform continous film that is required for the paint to hold up. Even with lots of experince spraying automotive paints, it was a pian. I did it once but never again! I just painted my 31 footer with Sherwin Williams Primer, top coated with Sherwin Willians Pre-Catylized Water Based Epoxy. This an awesome combination that can be applied by spray or brush and roller. You can get any finish and color you want. I did mine in semi-gloss bright white and the results are great. I really like the white color in a trailer because it makes the space so much brighter and seems so much bigger. I also found a cleaner/prep called Marine Clean. It as made by the POR-15 people. You can clean a wall with whatever you want, but when you spray the Marine Clean on afterward, you'll see that is wasn't really clean at all. It's nasty stuff though. You need good ventilation, gloves, and you really should wear a mask to prevent breathing the vapors. It will choke the heck out of you. 30 years of cooking grease and cig smoke just ran down the wall after being hit with this stuff! That epoxy paint I used makes a super tough and scrubbable wall finish. I used light gray primer and two coats of paint applied by roller & brush. The stuff dries quickly, even at low temperatures. It can be applied down to 50 degrees. It took 4 gallons to do the complete trailer including closets and overhead cupboards. The Zolatone takes 6 to 8 gallons at $128 a gallon plus catalyst, and $210 for primer. The epoxy was $36 a gallon and seems just as bulletproof.
OK, I know nothing of Zolatone but assume thats whats in this 68 30 ft Sovereign???? What kind of paint do I use for painting over the Zolatone???? I know its an odd paint and I prefer Behr (sp) from Home depot, it sbeen great on my home and an extreamely windy part of Northern Nevada and hold up great.
I dont know what to use on the Zolatone, primer or what kind of top coat? Is there a specific paint I have to use, I thought Kevin Tetz (The DIY GUY)suggested one type of paint for over the top of the Zolatone
HOW ABOUT FOR OTHER SURFACES?
I also paint using automotive paints and expoxy and top coat primers on vehicles I do, however, I have actually used Omni expoxy gray primer over some wood, which them allows me to use an automotive top coat. I did this for shop cabinets, as I wanted some shinny metal looking cabinets and it worked well. I have a few areas inside the 68 that I may do like this as we may go with a hotrod theme and or surf, woody theme in ours. Still deciding.
I am suprised to read that noone has tried TSP to clean the grime off and prep for paint or that anyone has used Benjamin Moore Paint. I am new to the Airstream business, but in my 30+ years as a commercial licensed interior designer, TSP and Benjamin Moore were very good to my clients. Benjamin Moore is usually more expensive the Sherwin Williams and all of the other paints, but always covers better!
Has anyone tried these products in their Airstream?
After reading your post I went to our local BM dealer. I was SOOO impressed with the information I was given as to what I should use on the vinyl over aluminum clad walls.
The product I chose is Aura, a low VOC colorLock paint (Green Product low fumes no harmful vapors). This product bonds the highest quality color pigments tightly within the paint for extraordinary results. Colors are deeper, richer and more enticing than any i've seen.
I was told by the man helping me turned the color swatch book upside down and told me to pick 3, it didn't matter he said. I picked three, he flipped them over. One was purple, one was green and one was red. THEY ALL WENT TOGETHER! It didn't matter what I chose the colors blended together wonderfully. I was AMAZED!
He recommended I clean the walls with TSP which I did ...like 5 times and I am now ready to apply the Grip and Seal Latex primer. The Aura Paint is a self priming product and I was told It would probable be O.K not using the primer but I want to be sure it bonds GOOD!
It's been beautiful all week while I prepared the walls, 60s 70s. Today I'm ready to paint and it's ...38! I'm bummin man!
I will post pictures to our blog and keep you updated on our progress.
I went to the Benjamin Moore store and LOVED their product. Low VOC wonderful colors and the TSP cleaner/duller did the trick on that sticky dirt and grime.
We chose a sassy color called Salsa along with a couple of accent colors to use along the way. They are from the Aura Collection.
We had them tint the grip and seal primer to the lightest shade we will be using.
The paint really brought the texture out in the vinyl walls. It almost looks like leather. (Click on the picture of the plug-in to see texture)
Guys,
I just did a lot of painting in bathroom which had the nasty flowered vinyl paper. I cleaned it three times with Greased Lightning, let it dry and put two coats of Kilz II on it and then used kitchen and bath gloss enamel paint on it. It worked great!! As for the wood grain walls, we used vinyl textured wallpaper from Home Depot ($13 a roll) to cover the panels and then painted them the color my wife wanted. Now it looks like textured sheetrock and has a great look to it. I painted the domes (after cleaning repeatedly) with Krylon Fusion paint for plastic. I also used Krylon Fusion to recover the yellowed plastic cabinetry in the kitchen and bath. It all came out looking great!! Hope it helps.
-Don
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I'm redoing the whole interior, I believe the walls ceiling are vinyl clad.
Not 100% sure but the rivits are not the same color so it appears it was never painted before.
Has anyone spray painted the interior with some type acrylic paint?
If so what type or brand of paint and how dis it hold up?
Any top quality/premiun acrylic primer/undercoater should perform quite well. Behr primer will work just fine and a Behr finish paint with your choice of sheen ie: flat, eggshell, semigloss, or full gloss should do the trick. What is wrong with the Zolatone in your trailer?
Any top quality/premiun acrylic primer/undercoater should perform quite well. Behr primer will work just fine and a Behr finish paint with your choice of sheen ie: flat, eggshell, semigloss, or full gloss should do the trick. What is wrong with the Zolatone in your trailer?
Well, as it turns out its vinyl, not the zolatone. I was told that zolatone was it until fafter 69, but mine is a 68 and has vinyl.
I was told that zolatone was it until fafter 69, but mine is a 68 and has vinyl.
Actually, my research has shown that 1965 was the last year for Zolatone. It was a transition year...some vinyl on the flat panels & Zolatone on the endcaps. Vinyl clad walls came in with the Corning Glass windows in 1966.
Great job on the interior! I went to the BM site, but the paint they have is Natura, available this Spring. Maybe this is replacing the Aura collection?
BTW, what did you use to redo the wood on your partitions? That looks really nice. Also, what finish did you go with for the interior, semi-gloss?
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We went with the BM bonding primer and had it tinted to the lightest color we were using. If using one color have the primer tinted to that color. It helps with the coverage.
I love the low VOC paint. I painted while my husband was working on the bath area and neither one of us noticed any fumes at all. Awesome.
Try this Benjamin Moore & Co. and yes it is semi gloss.
The wood in the AS is Birch. We gutted the interior and built the partitions and cabinets ourselves...I always say WE ...meaning MY HUSBAND...
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Kani & Jack,
Great job on the interior! I went to the BM site, but the paint they have is Natura, available this Spring. Maybe this is replacing the Aura collection?
BTW, what did you use to redo the wood on your partitions? That looks really nice. Also, what finish did you go with for the interior, semi-gloss?
Some of the wood we had a friend order and some we got at Home Depot.
If I were you I would paint the walls and cabinets you have with 2 or 3 of the BM colors. Your rig is in great condition (I took a look) and I think you could do some awesome things with a good cleaning with TSP and some Aura Paint. The thing I like about this paint is that no matter what color you pick all the other Aura colors go with it...it's amazing really. Ask them to demonstrate this for you..
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Kani,
Thanks for the link, it worked. That Birch looks really nice! Where did you guys get the lumber?
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I'd love to see how it turned out.
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