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Old 11-06-2015, 08:06 AM   #29
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We want to go with this modification on our 2008 Classic 25fb since we are planning on get a queen to twin bed conversion and new flooring soon we might as well get the living area done.

I have some questions:
What are dimensions of the foldout table?
How wide is the table?
Can two sit opposite each other and put two normal sized plates or do you have to eat staggered or can two eat on just the one leaf pulled out or do you have to use the extension?
How wide and deep is the top on the table base?
How far out does the table extend with one table and when the extension is folded out?
How high is the table bottom to the floor?

Does the table frame mounted to the rear wall allow access to the electric sockets/TV satellite jumper?

Does the recliner stay in one position that allows you to eat and also swivel around to watch TV or do you have to adjust its position so as not to hit the table or wall. We are thinking of this recliner that only requires 2 1/2" distance from wall to recline and has built in foot rest.
Lambright Lazy Relaxor Wall Hugger Recliner, Glastop Inc.

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Hi Kelvin,

Dimensions of the foldout table? - Tabletop (eating surface with one foldout) is 23 1/2" long and 20" wide and 28 1/2" high.

How wide is the table? - 20"

Can two people sit opposite each other and use two normal sized plates? - Yes, the table width is 20". We only use the other layer (second foldout) if we have 4-5 people in to eat.

How wide and deep is the top on the table base? - I assume you are talking about the part which attaches to the trailer wall. The top is 13" deep and 24" wide. The side pieces (also attached the wall) are 5 1/4" deep at the bottom.

How far out does the table extend with one table and when the extension is folded out? 36 1/2" with one foldout table and the extension brings it to 60".

How high is the table bottom to the floor? 26 3/4". To the eating surface is 28 1/2".

Does the table frame mounted to the rear wall allow access to the electric sockets/TV jumper? Yes. On my table there's a door hiding the wall and all those sockets. I drilled a 1 1/2" hole on the street side of the table side piece with a hole saw and put a plastic hole grommet in the hole. That gave me access to put the cord from the lamp we have on the table top down to a power source.

Does the recliner stay in one place that allows you to eat and also swivel around? I got the optional riser ring and screwed that to the floor. The recliner sits on that ring and swivels all around. I eat meals using that recliner facing in toward the table. The Lambright recliner has the riser also (it looks like it is standard). I also put a few black velcro staps around the base of the recliner and the riser ring to hold the recliner down. Just a precautionary thing since the rear of the trailer bounces more than the front.

Other comments if I had it to do over -

I would get the Lambright or Villa recliner with the built in leg support. The built in leg support will give you more floor area in the trailer. Maybe the Lambright has an edge because it has a riser (which can be screwed to the floor). My recliner/ottoman is very comfortable but moving the ottoman slightly to the center of the trailer so one can go in and out of the trailer is cumbersome. This moving is each morning and at night. The advantage of the ottoman is that it is adjustable where it supports your legs. Does the Lambright support long legs comfortably? BTW, I just looked at the Lambright chair online and it is 4 inches narrower than mine (27" versus 31") but approximately the same seat height and depth. The narrower width is in the arm width not the seat. The Lambright seat width (inside arm to inside arm) is 20 1/2" whereas mine is 20". The Lambright chair will fit fine.

On the table, I would just do one foldout. We never use the second foldout. I'm sure the table would be much cheaper and easier to make with just one foldout. I would also recommend a local cabinet maker do the work. Roettger Hardwoods did an excellent job but it was about 6 months to get the table made. I believe they are doing the cherry wood interiors on the new Classic so they may be swamped with work. But they did the Hickory wood on your trailer so you may want to check with them.

Another table option is to just cut your existing tabletop narrower. Leave the back the same width (where the table attaches to the wall) but cut a curve on both sides of the table about 6-8" from the wall and end up with a tabletop that is 4-5" narrower on each side towards the front. Maybe end up with the 20" width for most of the table, but full width on the back of the tabletop to use the existing brackets holding the table to the wall. A cabinet shop could do this for you.

Let me know if you have other questions.

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Old 11-06-2015, 02:59 PM   #30
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Thanks so much for taking the time to collect the information and share.

I've been thinking about a plan B that would be cutting my table size down. One of the issues with the Classic hickory table is I think it is a little too wide. When you slide into the dinette seats the table edge is right up close to your waist. I think its size is due to the table having to rest on top of the dinette when in the sleeping position. Looking at how it rests on the dinette ends and measuring it appears cutting off about 5" off each side would still give me a table that is 24" wide. The nice thing about the fold down table is when you don't need it you can fold it back into the frame and open up the space.

Thanks for the heads up about Roetiger Hardwoods. 6 months lead time is probably not going to work for us. The company we are considering do custom interiors on large diesel pushers so I would think a simple holdup table would be easy. They have assured me they can match the wood.

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Old 11-18-2015, 09:00 PM   #31
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Russ, I sure do like what you have done to your AS. We also have the 25' FB with the ultra leather couch. Is the BenchMaster comfortable and is it ultra leather? I looked on the Amazon website and BenchMaster received a low approval rating. I researched the Lambright recliner but its kind of pricey. With the Lambright the 2.5 feet from the wall concerns me. I can understand having a separate ottoman could pose a problem of being in the way.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:38 AM   #32
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Russ, I sure do like what you have done to your AS. We also have the 25' FB with the ultra leather couch. Is the BenchMaster comfortable and is it ultra leather? I looked on the Amazon website and BenchMaster received a low approval rating. I researched the Lambright recliner but its kind of pricey. With the Lambright the 2.5 feet from the wall concerns me. I can understand having a separate ottoman could pose a problem of being in the way.
Hi gaylejoe, the BenchMaster recliner I have is very comfortable and has real leather where the skin touches. I've had no problem with any aspect of the chair for the past 4 years. Granted it is on the cheaper end of the scale so I wouldn't expect it to last as well as other more expensive brands. The only negative we've experienced is that the ottoman gets partially in the way while coming in and going out of the trailer. So, during the day we move it over in front of the table but every night we move it back. Since we plan on spending a lot more time camping in the future, I just ordered the Lambright recliner. It is only 27" wide versus the 31" width of the Benchmaster. The Benchmaster fits well but the Lambright will fit better. The biggest feature of the Lambright recliner that we like is the integrated leg support - we get more floor space. And we're getting it covered in ultraleather to match the sofa. It's more expensive than the BenchMaster but there are other recliners even more expensive. By the way, the Lambright is a wall hugger and only requires 2.5 inches space from the wall, not 2.5 feet as you mentioned in your post. Russ
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Old 11-19-2015, 07:34 AM   #33
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Russ, we are considering the Lambright 27" wall hugger. How were you able to find out the color and style of the ultra-leather on your Airstream? Can you send the VIN to Airstream for them to look up the ultra-leather?

What company did you choose to order the Lambright?

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Old 11-19-2015, 09:23 AM   #34
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Russ, we are considering the Lambright 27" wall hugger. How were you able to find out the color and style of the ultra-leather on your Airstream? Can you send the VIN to Airstream for them to look up the ultra-leather?

What company did you choose to order the Lambright?

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Kelvin,

When we bought our 2010 Flying Cloud 25FB new it had the material covering on the sofa. We wanted ultraleather covering and used a local upholsterer to re-cover those sofa cushions. We picked the Brisa Distressed Chamois ultraleather fabric. I also had researched photos of new ASs to see the stitch patterns and provided pics of those sofas to my upholsterer. It looks factory, which was our goal. See this link to the company that ultraleather comes from (and to see the different products/colors):

https://www.ultrafabricsllc.com/

For the Lambright recliner, I'm dealing directly with Lambright Comfort Chairs, Vernon Lambright specifically. You can deal with other dealers but Vernon and crew make all the Lambright furniture. Here's a link with information to Lambert:

RV-Dreams Journal: Visit To Lambright Comfort Chairs - (Goshen, IN)

Lambert doesn't have a website. You just have to call Vernon to order one. One of my reasons to deal directly with Vernon was no sales tax. Since I live in Florida, dealing with Glastop Furniture (also in Florida) would involve sales tax. Vernon said they would get the chair built in 4 weeks and then ship it to me (4 more days).

I would hope the customer service people at AS will give you the ultraleather color if you ask. Maybe AS used that Chamois color, I don't remember. You can then get the Lambright chair made in the same color. Our BenchMaster recliner was a different color shade but went well with the sofa.

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Thank you for this information. Did you find the prices at the factory the same as Glastop? $850 + shipping for Ultraleather.

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Thank you for this information. Did you find the prices at the factory the same as Glastop? $850 + shipping for Ultraleather.

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Russ, you just swayed me to the Lambright. That 2 1/2 inches from the wall sold me. Will the weight have any effect on your AS?
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Russ, you just swayed me to the Lambright. That 2 1/2 inches from the wall sold me. Will the weight have any effect on your AS?
Weight difference is very small. The recliner is about 80lbs which is offset by removal of the curbside part of the dinette (frame, cushion, wood platform under the cushion, and drawer).
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Ladyducks, could you please post a photo of the table assembly when it is folded up and out of the way? Eventually, I want to build a table similar to yours, and I would like to know where and how the table is put away in that cabinet along the wall.

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Are you going to attached the base of your new recliner to the floor?

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Ladyducks, could you please post a photo of the table assembly when it is folded up and out of the way? Eventually, I want to build a table similar to yours, and I would like to know where and how the table is put away in that cabinet along the wall.

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I don't have any photos of the table folded down and the trailer is in a storage facility right now. Until I get some photos, here's a description of how it works. The table works just like the typical Airstream foldout table - they've used this type for many years. I've even seen older ones for sale here on the classified section of AirForums.

Here's how the tabletop goes down: The leg is attached to the front bottom of the tabletop with a hinge (see the pics in my first post) and folds up to the underneath side of the table. It is held there by velcro. The front end of the tabletop is then lowered down. It is attached to the top of the back by a piano hinge which goes most of the width (you can just see it in the photo below). The tabletop ends up vertically suspended from the back top (just in front of the door). AS uses a couple of plastic devices (a kind of pressure fit latch I don't know the name of) to keep the tabletop from swinging while driving. I haven't added those yet as we are happy just leaving the table up. Here are two photos I found of the door shut and the door open. The door is just decorative. You could build a narrow shelf to put in there.
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On attaching recliner base to the floor, I would try it first without doing it. Some Airstreams seem to ride better than others, but our two recliners have never moved in many, many miles of travel. If they do move you might want to put some of that no-slip material used under rugs to hold them in place.

If they are loose you can move them around for cleaning, positioning for meals or other tasks. Ours are in the front so I slide them back to lighten the hitch weight slightly (it all helps); you can use them to help balance the load.
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