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Old 05-16-2014, 10:24 PM   #1
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Building a Banquette

Has anyone built a custom banquette before? Our 1973 Sovereign doesn't have any living room furniture in it and we really want a wrap around banquette that turns into sleeping space for our teens.
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:12 AM   #2
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I had to google banquette to make sure I knew what you were referring to. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are looking to build something like a U or L shaped dinette that can convert into a bed.

I've seen several posts by folks that have done just that, it's a popular mod. I had considered it, but will probably end up putting in a couple of recliners since its only the two of us with no kids to travel with.
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:10 AM   #3
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With a wraparound dinette the table becomes very small. With just seating on each side, the table usually attaches to the front wall, so it can be as long as the benches. With wraparound or U shaped seating, the table can only attach to the floor and has to be MUCH smaller due to the seating across the front. I found this out after I finished mine.
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:54 PM   #4
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Yes! A wrap around that is either U or L shaped. We have 2 teenagers and a huge family of aunts, uncles, and cousins that we would like to accommodate seating for. If anyone sees plans for a 73 Sovereign, please pass them on.
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Old 05-17-2014, 04:04 PM   #5
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I am about to build one in a 69 Sovereign. I am doing it for a client. Would like to see some photos of past mods. Has to be finished in 3 weeks.....
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:14 PM   #6
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I found plans on a fluke (searching Pinterest for cabinet ideas) and ran across a link to a dinette in the photos here.

I'm super new to this so I hope I'm linking that right.
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Old 06-08-2014, 05:03 PM   #7
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geepster....... I would love to see pictures of the couch you are building.

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Old 06-13-2014, 02:56 PM   #8
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When I re-did the interior on my 71 Sovereign I looked at the dinette you Linked to but being lazy & cheap went for a much simpler layout. It's a U-shaped dinette in the front with room for 6 people around the table. Table has folding legs and drops in to make a bed that is the width of the trailer for sleeping. I framed the whole thing with some 5/8" plywood I had lying around and then put some wall panelling on to cover things up. My upholstery is not great but it's functional and was very inexpensive to build.

The table is a little less than 4' square and there are no backs on to the seats but again it's functional. I also made the tops of the seats removable so I have a lot of storage under them. A couple of things I found:

- I supported the back edge with plywood screwed to the walls. The corners were a little tough as I laminated several thin sheets to handle the radius.
- There is low headroom on the bench across the front of the trailer due to the console above. The kids don't have an issue with it but for an adult it can be low.
- I made the table completely removable. Which is nice to move it outside if needed. When towing it's not very stable so I put it in the "bed" position.

I only have one photo right now but can add others and dimensions if anybody wants.
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Oh, Sandman, that's just what I want to do in our 72 Overlander. I had also thought about a removable table for outside dining. Would love more photos/plans etc!

I had thought about a table with a drop down leaf, so you could add more seating across the front in case of company, using a couple of small folding chairs. I have my eye on a couple chairs at Target, just waiting for their summer stuff to go on sale :-)
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:57 AM   #10
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Aaaaaand.....Target stuff is on sale, just like that. What are the dimensions of your table?

here's the set I'm looking at:
http://img2.targetimg2.com/wcsstore/...1405051329.jpg
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:45 PM   #11
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Plans

Here are a few more pictures, I'll get a plan up tomorrow. Also a few notes:

- I used 3/4" X 3/4" aluminium angle to support the table in bed mode. recommend adding one across the front as well.
- I would make the seat a bit lower next time. By the time you add the cushions they are a little high and there isn't a lot of room between the seats and table.
- The seats don't need to be as deep. I would look at maybe 20" next time to give a slightly larger table.
- You will need to make a "filler" cushion to complete the bed.
- The table itself is quite heavy. Next time I will use an aluminium frame and lighter plywood. It does have to be strong enough to fill the gap for the bed.

Feel free to ask questions. I can take more pictures or measurements if needed.


Overall shot of the framing


Shot of the supports along the wall


All cushions in place but no table. Note the "filler" cushion on the leaning on the wall.


Underside of the cushion in the front of the unit. Pieces of 2x2 stiffen the seat as well as help location it in the frame.


Backside of the frame. All 5/8" plywood.


With table in place. The laminate is buckling because I tried to join two pieces of plywood. Buy decent wood and it shouldn't be a problem.


In bed mode. Plenty of room for the wife and I. I put in a bunkbed for the girls.
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Nice work, thanks for the detailed photos! They will really help my handyman--I mean husband-- when it comes time for building.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:19 AM   #13
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One more picture. This is a basic plan of the layout in my 31' trailer. I made the table itself about 3/16" smaller than the opening.

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Old 06-17-2014, 01:50 AM   #14
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Benches

Here are some photos of the seating in its beginning stages.
I can take more tomorrow of the finished product. Notice how we angled the benches back to create more floor area....
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