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Old 02-05-2010, 06:27 AM   #1
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23' change dinette to sofa bed?

Looking at a 23' . Has anyone removed the dinette and replaced it with a Flesteel sofa/sleeper? Sofa can come with an air mattress or the standard gaucho type pull out. I think the air mattress is a queen which sounds nice. Would love to hear your opinions.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:38 AM   #2
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What year is the 23 ? Is the dinette in the front or on the side ?
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:52 AM   #3
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Where is dinette located?

We looked at a 23' FB with dinette on side and wondered the same question. The first issue that shot down the idea was the wheel well which would have resulted in custom made or pretty much cutting out frame and springs of sofa. A hide a bed definitely wouldn't have worked.
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Looking at a 23' . Has anyone removed the dinette and replaced it with a Flesteel sofa/sleeper? Sofa can come with an air mattress or the standard gaucho type pull out. I think the air mattress is a queen which sounds nice. Would love to hear your opinions.
Most vintage Airstream owners do exactly the opposite, replace the old goucho with a U-shaped dinette.

I don't see why you couldn't do that, Lisa. We have a flexsteel sofa/sleeper in the front of our Sovereign and love it. Very comfortable to sleep on.
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Most vintage Airstream owners do exactly the opposite, replace the old goucho with a U-shaped dinette.

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Exactly! I'm in the middle of doing that in an Overlander, forward of the door. But there's a lot more room in a 27 footer.

Whatever you do, IMHO a permanent bed is must. The best Safari design (for 70s models) I've seen is a bed up front and a dinette (with a very open "U" design) on the side. That's where I'm headed with my Safari.

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whatever you do, imho a permanent bed is must. The best safari design (for 70s models) i've seen is a bed up front and a dinette (with a very open "u" design) on the side. That's where i'm headed with my safari.

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zep, do you have photos of that set up? Sounds like something i could do in my 27'.
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WILDRTEXAS, sorry can't seem to find the link to the post with the diagram. I'm not that far along on the Safari. I'm still working the shell and floor. But I did take out the wing windows in the Safari in anticipation of having a bed up front.

I don't recommed it for an Overlander. The problem with putting anything across from the galley in the shorter Airstreams is that you wind up with a narrow bed or a dinette with a 12" wide table (unless you put a counter with bar stools along the wall). But you have to do one or the other in a Safari if you want a permanent bed. So if you put the bed up front in the Overlander, you get a squished dinette.

One successful arrangement like with the bed up front and dinette on the side is BLU_HWY_LADY's Safari. She elevated her dinette over the wheel well so you can sit facing each other across the table.

You might look at the 2007 floorplans for ideas, if you want to go for it. MEL, one of the moderators, posted a link in one of my threads to a bed-up-front arrangement, but the link is now broken. Maybe he can help.

In the Overlander, you can put a double bed one side and drawers and desk on the other, all aft of the galley. The drawers and desk can be fairly narrow, like 18", which allows for the passageway and bed opposite. Then you can have either a gaucho or dinette up front. That's what I did in my Overlander.

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ZEP, Thanks so all the info.
Seems like Im STILL working on my floor too.
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We had a dinette up front in our Argosy....we took that out and made a
bed. Then we took out the two twins that we have in the middle and will be putting this on one sidehttp://www.rvsurplus.net/catalog/display.php?product_id=2478 then on the other side will be putting two recliners with a wall mounted flip up table in the middle for eating. We do most of our eating and cooking outside so having a full dinette just didn't make sense for us....also we love the bigger bed with our custom mattress.
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