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Old 11-25-2015, 09:15 PM   #1
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What? I stink? No Grey or Black water problem.

Scent is Mother Nature's perfume.

I used the prefix West on purpose. That is because my wife and I camp and others knowing where I camp might be areas to avoid at all costs.

So many Threads concern Black and Grey Water problems. Problems of filling their black and grey tanks in their trailer in three days, not knowing what to do next.

Maybe, go on a tent camping trip for ten days. Off the Grid would be the best education, but lets say you would like a milder, nicer option a camp site with a water pump and privy for the entire eight camp sites.

What did you learn from either the OtG experience, or the basic campsite in the forest option? I bet you learned a lot.

-Zero Grey and Black water.
-Showers were a luxury for those who want to be... stunning while camped.
-Cooking on the picnic table, tail gate of your vehicle... or cold sandwiches.
-Dishes washed in a plastic "oil change pan" from Walmart.
-Warm water from your propane stove for washing yourself. Soap optional.
-Clothes that still retain their original colors are considered... clean.
-Ice melts in ice chest. You can drink it or use it for optional uses, like above.
-Deodorant is optional. Makeup is optional.
-Plastic cup of water, toothpaste, toothbrush ten feet from tent, minimum.
-Use the restroom, if provided... or take a hike with a shovel. Downwind.

Did you survive? Did your clothes stink before or after you arrived home? Did you really care? After the first couple days... yes. After a week, come on. After ten days... you are looking rather wild and woolly. You have learned more than most in only ten days.

FEW backpackers and tent campers look in the mirror... or even have a mirror other than on their 4x4 truck. Your hair is the first indication that you might not be allowed into a local restaurant. If you and your wife have beards, maybe eat at the camp site. Anyone experienced in roughing it knows that just washing your face and hair is treating yourself like a King and Queen. Jumping into a 50 degree creek for a good cleansing... maybe optional after the headache and shivering afterwards.

You do not need to shower every day, every other day or even consider it at all. We go in clean... and leave clean. That is ONE shower using about 3 gallons between the two of us when going back to civilization. The scent that mother nature gave us is our natural defense from... whatever it was meant for. It will repel water, at least.

You do not need to look normal, smell normal or dress normal Off the Grid. Your hair is a mess... wear a nice hat.

A change of clothes usually is a good time to use your 3 gallons in a trailer... and take this grey water and toss it into some brush. Nobody south of the Canadian border has been attacked by a bear when holding a flashlight to find the camp restroom during the day or night. Never. Or, not reported. If I had to chose between fresh water to drink and having a refreshing shower... well, you guess.

I bring canned and bottled beverages to drink, for emergencies like water shortages.

In the Midwest... you wake up, shower. You step outside... you wasted your time. See? You wasted a lot of water as you are already a mess. Humidity is your enemy. Not taking showers regularly. Go West Young Humans. It is dry. Everyone camping... stinks. Everyone wears a hat, a cap or must be bald.

On this Forum... maybe we and our two Blue Heelers use this procedure. But you get no sympathy from me if you run out of fresh water and your toilet and sinks are backed up into the trailer.

Guys understand. Or most.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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This post grabbed me, "I Stink" , then I seen a short story & did not read. Guys, keep it short, most don't want a big read.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:56 PM   #3
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Heard near the end of a 10 day hiking trip without showers at Philmont Scout Ranch, "is that funny smell US?"

Our boys know that story well--they lived it😄😄😄

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Old 11-25-2015, 10:16 PM   #4
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Love this! So true.
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Old 11-26-2015, 05:32 AM   #5
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Ray, really like your LONG stories. Great info and so true! Those withADD do not have to read them, they are the ones missing out. Keep it up. Good boondocking.
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:33 AM   #6
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Thank you Ray

I really enjoy your writings, and look forward to them. They are insightful, well written pieces on interesting topics.
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:36 AM   #7
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Especially as a newbie, I love your posts. Keep writing in your inimitable way, Ray!
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Old 11-26-2015, 07:12 AM   #8

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Thumbs up Stink.....

.....boi we must.

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Old 11-26-2015, 07:29 AM   #9
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I am out of the norm . Being female and enjoying camping on a bicycle or Harley I've done both. Many times. A couple of 5ooo mile camping trips west on the Harley, alone and unafraid of a bad hair day or 10.
My Caravel will be ready for camping summer 2016 , I'm pretty sure I will have more than enough room and water for a very lengthy stay in the great outdoors. And bonus, I won't have to crawl on the ground to get into it .
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:39 AM   #10
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I see no real problem

Somewhere in the past I was taught about "spit baths"....probably in the Military. Showers are not necessary to stay clean and "odorless." A washrag and a gallon of water is more than enough. An inexpensive blue boy solves grey water problems if you can't use a hose drain. Pee in the woods if your really camping helps reduce the black water build up.
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:52 AM   #11
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I like to hike

Some Appalachian Trail Thru Hikers, tisk at the weekend hikers who smell like shampoo and deodorant. The perfume is overwhelming to them, and they say, " Why bother? It's futile "

It could be that people get immune to their own smell, and don't realize what other people smell. You don't want to stink at a pot luck dinner. Heck, it could be that my stink, alerted a bear, that a pain in the neck hiker was in the area.
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:13 AM   #12
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Another great post Ray. Keep them coming!

Being an avid back packer, rock hound, hunter, fisherman, canoeing, tent camper. We get it.
The wife and I built our trailer for booney camping, and that is what we do.
It's the best base camp ever!

It is easy to clean up, and brush my teeth with as little as a glass of water, outside. No fresh, black or gray water problem here.

What odor, that must be you!

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Old 11-26-2015, 09:51 AM   #13
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We decided that the tiny corner shower originally in our 55 was futile (and didn't want to deal with water problems) so we are leaving it out in our reno. We have been taking "bucket baths " for years at remote campsites if we get too ripe and I will be engineering an outdoor shower for more complete cleaning and dog washing. Not really glamping but it fits our style
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Old 11-26-2015, 10:00 AM   #14
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This post grabbed me, "I Stink" , then I seen a short story & did not read. Guys, keep it short, most don't want a big read.
Find my Thread on Winter Full Timing... where I used ONE WORD.


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