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Old 11-26-2015, 11:13 AM   #15
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Of course, some of the first post is pure satire. Even satire has a word of truth in it.

I am preparing the 2016 Wyoming adventurers for a little of what to expect. There are few and far between dump sites for your Black Water. When camped for a week in my 1956 VW, two people in the Badlands of Nebraska, or the fossil Cretaceous chalk beds of Western Kansas... you learn how to survive at 15 1/2 years old with a driver's Learners Permit folded in my wallet.

There are gaming forums, my favorite Casino table game is Craps. Most newbies want a one sentence answer on how to WIN playing Craps. I have books from 400 to 700 pages long about gaming and Craps mathematics. Craps takes a life time to learn... the lesson learned is... it cannot be beaten in the long run. Same with Off the Grid camping. You cannot compress years of knowledge in one paragraph. If I did, I would be just as lost as some City Slicker that forgot to bring a good map.
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Great SHORT read Ray. As long time Westerners who camp and fly fish, we can totally relate to your post. Have yet to meet a trout that gave a hoot how I looked or smelled, and everyone else just doesn't matter till I get back to the civilized world, and I use the term 'civilized' loosely...
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Old 11-26-2015, 12:10 PM   #17
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Great SHORT read Ray. As long time Westerners who camp and fly fish, we can totally relate to your post. Have yet to meet a trout that gave a hoot how I looked or smelled, and everyone else just doesn't matter till I get back to the civilized world, and I use the term 'civilized' loosely...
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Several years ago we brought a couple of City Slickers that did not camp Off the Grid and their 25 foot Arctic Fox to a campsite in Wyoming. While camped there, a group of pack horse riders had returned from a week or more in the Wilderness Area. They invited us to a steak and western potato dinner that evening.

Our friend's wife sat nearest the group around the large campfire that evening.

She was practically knocked out by the Natural Scent of the group. Between themselves and the sweat of the horses... it was an experience. The steaks were thick and great beef.

The End.
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Old 11-26-2015, 12:28 PM   #18
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While traveling at 15 years old with a learner's permit from Independence, Missouri, I was eager to travel during the Summer. Saving up $50, or less, was enough to stretch a trip to a week or more. My 16 year old friend had a valid license and saved up to split expenses on these adventures.

Badlands of Western Nebraska for fossil mammals and "turtles".
Florissant Fossil Beds of Florissant, Colorado for fossil insects.

Earth Science Magazine out of Chicago wanted to attract younger fossil collectors among the general age of their subscribers being in their 40's to 70's. I wrote two feature articles in 1965 and the other printed in 1966. They were, of course, well endowed with words and some photographs.

The Badlands article received a letter from the... Smithsonian in Washington, DC.

They were not happy that I was collecting vertebrate fossils on private ranches and then writing about the geology and my experience. It would "encourage others" to collect.

That was the last time I had anything to say about the Smithsonian Institution.

The same has to apply to those who do not want people pushing further into the Off the Grid camping and hiking. It is "theirs", not someone with a trailer or camper in tow.

Well... excuse me to them, as well. Today... I am encouraging as many as can be accommodated on Western Adventures. And... I hope these same members encourage others to go with them after the first or third, or tenth trip with us.

So, bear/bare with me. When I was being paid 5 cents a word versus $100 an article in Gameroom Equipment magazines... I could not do the by the word. The article needed to be written as it flowed. Rewritten and cleaned up the text. Then shortened to fit the page count needed. The $100 check arrived. Airstream Threads are written as it flows. The auto fill turns some words into others... but I do my best to keep the post... relative.

I want others to open themselves up to how you think and how you manage to leave your habits of home from getting in the way of camping out... not at a RV Park... but in those places that only YOU find yourself. How do you manage? Most that talk as if they are Off the Grid campers... do not truly know. Much like the Sheepherder Wagon. It may stink... but you have what it takes.
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Old 11-26-2015, 01:02 PM   #19
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I am so looking forward to meeting you in person next summer. So long as we all smell the same there's no problem. Like eating garlic. Just make sure everyone gets some and it's all right. Keeping the smells at bay can be done with a litre of water and a wash cloth. Just concentrate the efforts on the high percentage areas. Pits and crotch plus any other skin folds that do not stay dry.
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My days of sleeping on the ground are long over ( thank God ) I enjoy my airstream so much more than when I was young and poor
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Old 11-26-2015, 04:08 PM   #21
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We needed those washing instructions, Gearheart.

As for me.....I will have what I need to remain reasonably clean.


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This post grabbed me, "I Stink" , then I seen a short story & did not read. Guys, keep it short, most don't want a big read.
But see, it wasn't meant for most... just for those who can relate. Thanks for the story, Ray.
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Old 11-26-2015, 04:59 PM   #23
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Find my Thread on Winter Full Timing... where I used ONE WORD.

"Don't."

Keep 'em coming, Ray, your writing is great! For those very few (maybe one), who doesn't like it, there are several hundred who do enjoy.....

For whatever it's worth,

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Old 11-26-2015, 05:12 PM   #24
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Writing is like digging a hole.

You can dig half a hole, or just go for a whole hole. It is the getting out of it, once the hole is dug, that can be most difficult.

As I have quoted in the past from Mark Twain, with modern touches.

"A gold mine is a hole in the ground with a liar on top." It can apply to about anything, but sharing ideas are the most valuable asset any of us possess.
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Ray, as usual, I always enjoy your writing. I have not met you and your lady...but, have a feeling...you must be "tell it like it is sorts". I tend to like REAL people much easier than pretenders. Thanks for your postings. Evelyn.
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Very well written piece and my wife an I both laughed over it. Thanks Ray. But after spending a year in Vietnam as a Marine rifleman and only having about 3 showers during that time, I well remember the stink and love the fact that my AS allows a shower and clean underwear every single night. God bless our Airstreams and the convinces they afford us! But I would be pleased to share a drink with you anytime, stink or no. After all, I'll be taking a shower afterwards! ��
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Old 11-26-2015, 10:39 PM   #27
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Hi Kilo3. I also spent a year in Vietnam in the Marines, G 2/9, 65-66. When we would leave on a 30 day patrol, we would notice ourselves getting dirtier each day for the first 3-4 days, and after that everything just seemed normal until we returned to base. As we walked back through the wire, we would pass other Marines and suddenly would feel very dirty once again. Then we would shower and feel clean again. We weren't really all that clean, even then, but by comparison it felt like we were. Then after the showers, we were usually given two beers from a garbage can filled with ice and beers, usually San Miguel. Having two cold beers in a row after having none for thirty days or so really threw me for a loop, but it was the best I remember feeling in Vietnam.

Recently, my outdoor time has mainly been spent on 2-3 week backpacking trips. My wife goes out longer, as much as a month at a time. Usually we backpack from lake to lake, and she will bathe almost every day in whatever lake at which we end up, cloudy or sunny, unless it's actually raining. I'll bathe if it's sunny and the air seems dry enough that I'll dry off fast. Lupe bathes 3-4 times a day, rain or shine, and never complains about our smell. None of us use soap, but we feel clean after plunging into the ice cold lakes. Sometimes on a longer backpack, we'll rinse out our socks and underwear if it seems sunny enough that they will dry before night comes. Well, some of us will; Lupe has never bothered with that.

I haven't yet had that much experience boondocking in the Airstream, but compared with jumping into a cold lake, taking a sponge bath with warm water in my own shower seems like a luxury. Lupe is just the opposite. As much as she loves jumping into cold lakes, she hates getting showers of any kind, hot or cold, so the less water available in the airstream for showers, the better she likes it.


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I want others to open themselves up to how you think and how you manage to leave your habits of home from getting in the way of camping out... not at a RV Park... but in those places that only YOU find yourself. How do you manage? Most that talk as if they are Off the Grid campers... do not truly know. Much like the Sheepherder Wagon. It may stink... but you have what it takes.


Some of us sweat, and/or just like to feel reasonably odor free.

I took this type of thing on the New Mexico trip last year.....they work great, leave you feeling clean, use no water and can then be burned in a fire.

Walmart, Walgreens, most drug stores sell them, and they are just a few dollars per package.


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