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Old 11-24-2014, 05:28 PM   #113
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Lots of things are available on the internet! The question is one of compatibility, efficiency and overall seamlessness for an installation. What type of charge controller do you use with what panel to derive the most bang for your solar dollar. Who is going to warranty the devices when/if they fail to operate?

Pre-wire????? Unless you plan on limiting your solar array to 100 watts, the 10AWG pre-wire that Airstream uses is inefficient and inadequate.....especially in the long runs that Airstream loves to route the pre-wire to. Expect significant voltage drop as your cable length increases! Communication cable to the solar monitor panel? Sure, where does it run and where will you place this monitor panel?

How about mounting the panel(s)? How many holes in your roof are you willing to tolerate being placed in your roof by inexperience or plain lack of knowledge of working, alternative mounting methods?

Lots of guys have done DIY solar and I have seen lots of installations that work. Not to maximum efficiency, but they do put a charge into the batteries. I especially love the reactions when their systems are re-done the right way and the owner sees what they have been missing by not having had the system installed properly.

Knowledge and experience cost, but in the end you end up saving BIG by having the right person survey your electrical needs and design/install a solar charging system that's right for your situation.

As the say in the marine business.........what ever floats your boat!
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Old 12-06-2014, 09:10 PM   #114
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What size generator do you need to power both a/c's ?
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Old 12-06-2014, 10:16 PM   #115
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What size generator do you need to power both a/c's ?
6500 watt minimum with a 50 amp output receptacle consisting of parallel 120VAC circuits. Most larger RVs use a 7500 watt unit, either gasoline or diesel.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:44 PM   #116
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6500 watt minimum with a 50 amp output receptacle consisting of parallel 120VAC circuits. Most larger RVs use a 7500 watt unit, either gasoline or diesel.

And unfortunately retails for over $8000 without accessories and ship weight is 425-lbs.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:22 AM   #117
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And unfortunately retails for over $8000 without accessories and ship weight is 425-lbs.
He asked..........so I answered.......................
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:48 PM   #118
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Lewster knows what he is talking about on Solar.

I would like Airstream to consult with Lewster and he can explain to the engineers at Jackson Center that the "prewiring for a Solar Panel" is not adequate. Being cheap on wire does not build confidence in what other areas have been cut for profits. Maybe a couple dollars to do it right?
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:57 PM   #119
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They had a big spool of speaker wire leftover.....
Thought they'd put it to good use!
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:50 PM   #120
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Honda EU7000IS
Awesome. Runs both of my a/c
VERY quiet
About $3800 shipped
250 lbs. has wheels.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:12 PM   #121
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Honda EU7000IS
Awesome. Runs both of my a/c
VERY quiet
About $3800 shipped
250 lbs. has wheels.

May I ask where you got it for $3800
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:14 PM   #122
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May I ask where you got it for $3800

Do you run both off of the 30 amp receptacle or use the 30 and a 20 so you 50 amp plug goes in a pigtail
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http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect....or/p14017.html
Sorry was $3999 with no tax, free shipping and free lift gate service.

As to the power. You run it on 240 mode which means 22.9 amps in each 120v leg. Likely nothing in your AS runs in 240, but the 50 amp plug brings in two 120v legs just like your house. The AS then typically has one a/c plus microwave on one leg and the other a/c and hit water in the other. The last two circuits (split one on each leg), then split up the outlets with one having the 12v converter on it. Hope this helps.

Do a search of "Honda EU7000" in the electrical generator forum (can't remember how to post link). Also in that post is where to get the adapter that goes from your 4 prong 50 amp to the 4 prong outlet on the generator. You'll also see a chart of power output for the generator.

Also the generator is EFI so very easy to start even if you have to use the cord (has electric start).

Good luck.
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Old 12-10-2014, 05:47 PM   #124
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We like out eu7000 so far - it doubles for home backup as well






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A little off topic but I couldn't help noticing the number of comments about 120v TV use. Most of the LED screen models use 12-14v internally and have a converter built into the cabinetry. There are models available that use an external 120ac to 12dc converter cords similar to the recharging cords supplied for smartphones. Those models can be used easily for boondockkng by buying a cigar plug converter cable from a supplier like PowerStream - in-stock fused cigarette lighter cord, 5.5 x 2.1mm barrel connector, with red LED from PowerStream

A specific Samsung model is the UN22F5000: Amazon.com: Samsung UN22F5000 22-Inch 1080p 60Hz Slim LED HDTV (2013 Model): Electronics

The Samsung model mentioned only uses 2.5 amps at maximum draw and usually runs around 1.8-1.9 amps if you don't set the screen on full bright.
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SOLAR or GENERATOR? That is the question for Boondockers...

That bit about inadequate prewiring (too small gage if I recall) is depressing/annoying


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