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Old 09-16-2010, 09:35 PM   #1
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How cold does a night have to be to worry about freezing inside my 2000 Safari? We are planning a trip to Yellowstone at the end of September and may have to camp without outside power. I would like to avoid useing the furnace but don't want to freeze pipes. Any advice? Jim
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:07 PM   #2
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32 degrees F, 0 degrees C, here, there, and everywhere.
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We just got back from Yellowstone. It did dip below freezing. I recommend staying at Bakers Hole National Forest outside the park, near West Yellowstone. We had electricity, but had to fill our tank with water at the entrance. The price is reasonable (around $22 or $25/night). The campground is clean and sites are level. There are only pit toilets, but they are clean. We dumped in the town of West Yellowstone at the campground there ($6). We found this was a great location to get around the park. The line-ups getting into the campgrounds in the park were enormous. We were surprised since it is September.
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How cold does a night have to be to worry about freezing inside my 2000 Safari? We are planning a trip to Yellowstone at the end of September and may have to camp without outside power. I would like to avoid useing the furnace but don't want to freeze pipes. Any advice? Jim
This is probably a very conservative response;

If the forecast were for temps. less than 30 degrees, I would run the furnace on a low setting like 60. You can restore the batteries the next day with your TV or better yet, solar.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:01 PM   #5
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We were there just after Labor Day. We had full hookups at Grizzley in West Yellowstone. The fresh water hose froze solid one night.

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Old 09-17-2010, 09:35 AM   #6
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Jim, If it dips below thirty I'd worry. Of course, the very early morning hours just prior to sunrise are the coldest. Keep the doors open that lead to the water lines and possibly the inside temps will keep the trailer water lines from freezing up. Run the furnace if it gets really cold no matter what and recharge the batteries asap the next day. Why worry all night long?Better yet, pay for hookups and run an electric box heater at night (if furnace noise is the key issue) keeping the water lines uncovered. Good luck.
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I think if you search this topic you will find you are probably going to be safe if nighttime temps dont go below 20 or so. The trailer will be warmer than the outside temp. Set the furnace low, and you can coast right through.
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Old 09-17-2010, 04:04 PM   #8
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We camp in Northern Minnesota all throughout the fall... The temps are almost always below 32 at night. Our experience has been that unless the temps get seriously cold like 20 or so, for a prolonged period (where the daytime temps do not rise above freezing), the internal temps just don't allow for freezing. We have had our unit (2005 Bambi 19') sitting outside without heat inside for several nights where temps have fallen below 32 without incident. Typically the thermal mass of the rig is sufficient to keep things from freezing up on you as long as the days are sufficiently above those temps (that specifically includes the hot water heater - being exposed to the outside via vent). The real question is if you really want to wake up to 40 or 45 degrees inside your rig! Personally, I agree with others here... A few degrees of heat will make your trip much more enjoyable - at least it would for us. Worth the price of a site with power for my money...

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We were there at the end of Sept. a few years ago, pulled into the campground wearing shorts, beautiful day. That night a cold front went through, 24 degrees was the low and it flurried snow for a day or so. This time of year it's best to be prepared for anything. Hope the weather is beautiful for you.
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I think he was also worried about the lines leading in to the camper?
Fill the water tank and don't leave the hoses out.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:53 PM   #11
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Now we are back from a remendouse trip to yellowstone. Thank you to all who offered advice. Turns out we hit a rare hot spell and freeze up waas not an issue. We hope to g back next fall. By then we will have solar panels and more battery power and skip all the plug-in ($$$) camp sites. The most primative sites are the prttiest and we can do a plug in site to refill water dump tanks etc. Fall is THE time to see the park. jim
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