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Old 12-23-2010, 01:29 PM   #29
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If you don't have experience shooting take a course or two. You need to be familiar enough with your gun to be able to use it properly under duress.
This is excellent advice!
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I guess you could have Dick Cheney in the next campsite and hope the cross fire discourages evil doers. (I would be careful about making friends with him though.....)
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when its all over, bad guys have rights to , thats what the courts say.
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I use SW 9 mm and my wife uses a Tauris 38 w/laser grips. We both have CCWs and practice on a regular basis.
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:17 PM   #34
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when its all over, bad guys have rights to , thats what the courts say.
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a couple of observations -

i don't anticipate a car accident, yet i wear a seat belt.

pre-armed trumps fore-warned

to protect yourself -you need to be proactive. after the fact is too late.

a .22 is better than nothing but probably a bit on the small side.
carry a .38 or .380 at a minimum

shotgun - also good, but bulky and you need to be able to get to it.
a small pocket semi-auto, carried at all times, is probably a better bet

really helpful - a dog that will bark and alert you to any mischief.

know your firearm laws [they are all available on line] - act within them whenever possible.

when travelling, many places consider the inside of your trailer your 'domicile' and possession of a firearm inside your 'home' is okay.

don't advertise whether you carry or not - you should not provide others with info that might help them harm you. keep them guessing. in AZ it's prudent to assume that many people do carry - since they do.

above all - be alert and look alert.

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Old 12-23-2010, 05:27 PM   #36
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We carry a 75 and a 30, loaded and concealed

The safest place to park your AS is in the public lands of the Western USA.

Our first line of defense are our two Australian Blue Heelers. Visitors to our camp site do not understand Australian and see the 75 pound male Heeler and 30 pound female pup and wait patiently until we inquire if they need help...

Our second line of defense is loaded. Since we are in bear/mountain lion country often, something that makes noise (9mm, 38 special, 44, 45) will discourage beast or human. Unloaded you might as well be carrying a garden water sprayer.

When Rockdocking we ALWAYS carry a loaded pistol in a holster, belted on the waist, when exploring on BLM or National Forest land. I swing the holster around to my backside, when wearing a long sleeved shirt or tee shirt. We have never faced a threat, but if you have handled a weapon (military, which it seems everyone in their 60's had their two or three years handling pistols, rifles, LAW and similar noisy items) you have a head start.

Always keep the chamber, empty. On a revolver, keep the one cylinder in front of the firing pin empty.

99.999% of Airstream owners will never have an encounter where your life is at risk. But... the security of knowing that you can defend yourself is powerful. Criminals with intent do not give a rat's posterior about laws. If you do not believe in a firearm for security, take a broom to swat the bad guys.

I think some of the humor scattered within these posts are bumper sticker quality. Most important... Quit watching this crap they call entertainment on television with serial killers and drug gangs. You watch the movie "No Country For Old Men" will prevent you from stepping out a campsite.

Women. If you find yourself in the woods, confronted by some nasty bad guy... aim at his testicles. They figure they can survive a flesh wound... but... some wounds are worse than fatal.
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I definitely will be purchasing some sort of firearm.

Dogs are great, except the one that I have now (to me) seems unpredictable. Sometimes he will bark, sometimes not. I really wish I knew what he was thinking sometimes. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, however.

I think that it is a good idea, and not really hard for me, is to not look like you have much money or much of anything worth the effort to try to steal.

The idea of using lethal force against another human being bothers me. But having the ability to do so if a person deserves it makes me calm.

I'm thinking some sort of non-lethal alternatives first.
I think that this world is getting crazier every day.
Definitely want a good .22 rifle in case I get stuck somewhere and need to kill some food.
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Dogs are great, except the one that I have now (to me) seems unpredictable. Sometimes he will bark, sometimes not. I really wish I knew what he was thinking sometimes. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, however.

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I know of 380 reasons not to mess around. But there is a new kid on the block and that is a can of Wasp spray. the spray will reach out about 30 feet and is effective against most prowlers ie people, dogs, bears etc. A shot to the face will do the job, it will temp blind and also cause respiratory problems. Saw this on a survival show. Also one doesn't have to consider the laws of the land.
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DanielB is sound like your comfort level with fire arms is .22cal and that is better than nothing However Daniel if you are serious about killing some food .22 is not large or powerful enough for anything but small game, rabbits and squirrels. That is why it is illegal to use for big game hunting. I think a shotgun would be a best choice for defense and survival, if I only had one. Easily modified to fit any situation, bird shots, buck shots, slugs and sabot rounds.
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a couple of observations -

i don't anticipate a car accident, yet i wear a seat belt.

pre-armed trumps fore-warned

to protect yourself -you need to be proactive. after the fact is too late.

a .22 is better than nothing but probably a bit on the small side.
carry a .38 or .380 at a minimum

shotgun - also good, but bulky and you need to be able to get to it.
a small pocket semi-auto, carried at all times, is probably a better bet

really helpful - a dog that will bark and alert you to any mischief.

know your firearm laws [they are all available on line] - act within them whenever possible.

when travelling, many places consider the inside of your trailer your 'domicile' and possession of a firearm inside your 'home' is okay.

don't advertise whether you carry or not - you should not provide others with info that might help them harm you. keep them guessing. in AZ it's prudent to assume that many people do carry - since they do.

above all - be alert and look alert.

travel safe
Yep, carrying a firearm that you are trained to use is not such a bad idea as long as you are prepared to use it... nothing dumber, or deadlier, than to pull it out and then not being able to pull the trigger.
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I keep a 12 gu. double barrel coachgun handy. It's not of sawed off lenght but yet short enough to manuver in closed quarters. Like Batman says, it's versitile, can use it during hunting season for birds, rabbits, squirell, turkey and even deer. It's use is simple and reliable, this is very neccessary for when you are scared, operating in the dark and need to react very quickly.

One previous comment says to fire at the floor first, not me! If I even feel as though I need to present a lethal weapon in the first place, I'm already in fear for my life at that point, therefore, my first shot will be into the center of mass, quickly followed by a follow up shot. If I'd be using a handgun and I need to fire a shot then I'm firing several! Don't just stop at one shot becasue a wounded criminal can still kill!

Fortunately in Florida, our "Castle Right and Stand Your Ground Doctrine" applies not only to our house but our vehicle, boat, camper, what have you- anywhere you have a legal right to be.

I also have a concealed weapon carry permit.
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