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Old 11-07-2011, 11:00 AM   #1
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ROCKDOCKERS- boonypoopin' and whizzdockin'

Ken. You have coined two NEW camping terms when I am wandering off into the backcountry to do my "business". See... Boondocking vs Freestyling thread.

Yes, I am the one who "rarely" uses the stool in our AS. Occasionally the wife will use the stool to whizz when camped on the edge of civilization and the local facilities are not available in a public area. Once we are in the backcountry it becomes whizzdockin. Thank you. I will add these two terms to my limited verbal expressions of true back country camping, Rockdocking.

When we are in the Rockdocking mode, water becomes as valuable as beer and wine for drinking and for cooking. It is a waste of a precious commodity when spending a week or two camped in difficult area to tow our AS, and flushing wastes into a black tank. Before we leave the asphalt, I fill our water tank and four six gallon water jugs, drinking bottles and the dog's water jug. We term this, traveling heavy. When we leave we are traveling light, no black water, no grey water and if there is excess water we will dump fresh water down to 1/4 tank for weight reduction. If we misuse our water, the travel time may be in the hours to refill our water jugs in the nearest town to bring back to the camp site. In two weeks I will make a day trip of exploring to tie in with coming to our water source, filling up our water, gasoline, maybe ice and complete the round trip. Just frugal as well, with gasoline in the small western towns in the $3.50 to $4.25 ranges.

The wife and I can "shower" in less than 3 gallons of water. We can "washdock" in a half gallon with a face towel. We will use the shower when we are coming back into some form of civilization, since the intent is to use excess water/weight on the way out. I try to reserve a six gallon jug in the event we have a break down and the water is a life and death factor. You will note our "showerdocker tent" in the photo.

There is a fecal phobia in today's population. Camping at a RV Park in Columbus, Ohio is not the same as being camped where bear out number people. We all have our idea of back country camping. I respect anyone who tries it. It is just our back country camping requires a different set of standards. As a child in the 1950's, living near Lakeside, Montana, we had no running water, electricity and used an outdoor privy. I never thought anyone else lived any better nor worse. Now million dollar homes populate the area. The view is the same, just conditions have improved. It does not make me "arrogant" as someone had commented on a thread. It makes me proud to be a self sufficient American, living the dream. I know what being poor is like. I know what it is like to live... well. There is no better lesson in life to know the extremes. As I get older, I enjoyed my roots in those Montana mountains and our small boat on the Flathead Lake as a happy proud Montanan. So I need not apologize nor do I feel arrogant for boonypoopin' nor whizzdockin' where most AS owners dare not to venture.

If there are any other potential Rockdockers with terms for this type of camping, please add to the vocabulary. I think I am up to five or six terms as of today. And, please. If you have only negative things to say, keep them to yourself. It is not needed. AS camping is meant to be a fun experience, not a downer.
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:21 AM   #2
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I remember the first time that I was invited to hunt at an established deer lease and I discovered that they had a two-holer outhouse, and I remember thinking "What a nice camp". It sure beat finding an out of the way bush and the possible risk of poison oak rash where the sun never shines. I guess I grew up before everything became plastic wrapped and sanitized for your protection, too.
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Big hunks of my youth were spent in a dog-run cabin in east texas. Two bedrooms in one half, open porch between that half and the half with the fireplace. The kitchen/living room. The outhouse was out the door, down three wooden steps, about ten feet to a barbed wire fence, then a hard right for about 40 yards on a narrow path, to a single holer. Sears catalog nailed to the wall. Bucket of corn cobs on the floor.

In the middle of the night, in the cold of mid winter, barefoot on the ice or wait to put your shoes on? Sometimes a critical decision. And in the summer, one step off the path equalled a dozen sand spurs.

the remains of that cabin burned this summer, in Leon Co. Texas.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:27 PM   #4
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See, the trouble is that hardly anyone on this forum is gonna' understand the references to the Sears catalog and corn cobs. But when you've "been there, done that," an Airstream seems awfully cushy, no matter where you manage to tow it!

The February wind can really whistle thorugh an old outhouse and make you real appreciative of a warm fire back indoors. Once everyone lived like that - today very few do - but we all could again if we needed to.
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OK! I gotta ask. What's with the corn cobs?
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:38 PM   #6
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Our family summered in the Adirondacks of NYS when I was a kid. Not trailering it but at a family cabin in the woods. Had a single hole outhouse and no running water. That is unless you call totin it a quarter mile, running water. I don't remember the totin days cuz when I was a kid they had installed a well and a pitcher pump out back. Still the single holer though. It wasn't until the late 80's that an Uncle winterized the cabin and put in running water and a water heater. What luxury. And an indoor head. Wow. But it was only intended for summertime use back then anyhow. Still there with all it's luxuries too. I remember talk of the corn cobs and sears catalogs but we had regular paper.
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Gene of Crawford Gene fame, coined the terms., boonypoopin' and whizzdockin'. I just put them to music.

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I am sure the warning about not using it in motion is just some silly government requirement. I would pay it no mind. Using it while in motion could help obtain maximum dispersion.

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Old 11-07-2011, 08:40 PM   #11
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One Holers & Sears Catalogs

There just were no walking distance corn fields in the south Kalispell, Somers and Lakeside area that I remember as a kid. So no cobs to speak of. Lots of watermelon, cherry, berries and ice melting at the ice house in the summer. Probably an experience I may have just been happy to have not needed.

Sears catalogs. It is sad to see what has happened to Sears. Their catalog was where my clothes and shoes were purchased. The catalogs were common to find in the outdoor johns for paper. And do not forget to toss in some lye into the "pit" when you were finished... I remember when the new catalog was received in the mail, the women would gather around with their wish lists, looking at the "latest styles". When I attended first grade in Somers, Montana in 1956, I saw my first flushing toilet. The smell of kerosene lamps is another thing I remember. When lights were out, they were out. Times change, but these memories make the old days come back to life.

Somers being a lumber town with Anaconda, you would get your winter supply of firewood from the board trimmings for the hauling. Everyone worked at the mill and the town was owned by Anaconda, until they quit the local lumber business and you could buy property in Somers. Best wood for a wood burning stove to date! When the mill was running, the smell of pine covered everyone downwind from the saws cutting fresh timber! The smell of tar paper in the summer was the other smell I still remember.

Back to AStreaming:
A wonderful Boondocking site is on the west side of Flathead Lake operated by the State of Montana. You can camp alongside the lake with a gravel beach. Crystal clear water and there is a shower house and restrooms. It is called Big Arm Unit of the Flathead Lake State Park right off the east side of Highway 93, going north from Polson. When you begin to see Montana license plates with a 7, you are in Flathead/Lake county, for sure. It offers great swimming and relaxing along the cool lake waters. It has been five years since we were there, so I cannot recall the daily cost. Now they have an internet reservation system and keep some available for "stragglers".
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remember sleeping under a tin roof?

My grandparents lived in a 'dry' county in Texas. My grandfather and uncles would take me to an 'ice house', but it wasn't full of watermelons and strawberries. It was full of Texas farmers drinking beer.

I learned to drive at 12 by taking my grandfather back and forth from Buffalo Texas to Groesbeck to buy beer. The Local towncops got excited if they saw him driving himself back, and they probably knew about the several cases of Pearl in the trunk, but they never bothered to stop us when I was driving. they knew I was too young to have a license. Now I realize they were keeping an eye on me and were just relieved he wasn't driving. I must have a whole bunch of community service brownie points stacked up somewhere in the universe.

When we weren't living with my grandparents, we were on a land seismic crew travelling around the country blowing holes in the ground with dynamite. They were called Doodlebuggers. Some of my earliest words included 'jug hustler', 'party chief','dog house', 'cap wire', 'shooter', 'blaster', 'tool pusher','honky tonk'...

I was going "in the field" with my father when I was three. They let me flip the switch that started the cameras and set the explosion off. A crew of about two dozen young Texans and some of their familes traveled around together, living in rented rooms and mobile homes. From what I've seen since, I don't think it was a normal childhood.
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as for the corn cobs in the outhouse; one would "wipe" with a red one, than a white one to see if they needed another red one. cobs worked better than catalog paper and they were softer.
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you could turn em and get two swipes with one cob, too. Sometimes three. Depending on whether dinner had been heavy veggies again, or there was some meat this time....
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