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Old 11-05-2013, 09:54 PM   #15
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"I was able to go five day with plenty of battery left. But living simply."

You have found the magic formula! But if you're "out there" and you still need television and microwave and hair dryer and electric corn popper, you'd better just go back to the city. If you can simplify, you can do just fine on very few amp hours.

Of course, that doesn't work too well in Death Valley in the summer time. So don't go there in the summer time. Simple.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:06 PM   #16
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Is there such a thing as a 1000 genny?
Yes, both Honda and Yamaha offer 1000W quiet generators.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:11 PM   #17
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The Gopower 120 is too expensive for the power output and it is a very attractive theft item when you are not at the campsite, but it is out in the sun looking pretty.
That's basically my initial impression regarding cost. I've never had any bad experiences with theft in designated campgrounds, but I share your concerns in that regard.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:12 PM   #18
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Is there such a thing as a 1000 genny?
Yes, Honda makes a 1000 watt inverter generator which weighs about 29#. Cost is in the range of $700 - $800 now I believe. I have had one for a number of years and it has always worked well for my limited electrical use both in the trailer and at home when we have a power failure. It will start and run my side by side refrigerator and power a few compact fluorescent lights along with running my laptop. It runs for around 6 hours on 2 quarts of gas. Very quiet, like all Honda inverter generators.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:49 PM   #19
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Our 25FB had a 150 watt solar panel. It was not enough to recover from over night furnace usage. We had LED lights.

From the forum discussions, I bought the pair of Honda 2,000 watt generators. They will continue to be used with the new trailer. Only one AC Can be used at a time with these two units.

We plan to install close 500 to 600 watts of solar panels and four 300 amp hour lifeline batteries
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:51 PM   #20
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Generators need different jets at altitude

You mention that you are going to "the west". Some of the west is mountains. Depending on the altitude, generators require alternative carburetor jets.

We have a 1000 watt Honda. It came with the standard jet. At our home elevation on 5100 feet, it was hard to start and did not run well when it did start. We put in the high altitude jet, and now it runs well.

So plan ahead if you are going to need to run a genny at altitude. In my mind, that's a point in favor of solar. If you move around a lot, you might have to swap jets multiple times on a trip. A handy person can do the swap themselves, but it is not a trivial operation (at least on the Honda 1000).
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:24 AM   #21
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One thing I forgot to mention in yesterday's post - we removed the furnace, one of those infamous Suburban 22's, and haven't missed it yet, and sure like the extra storage space we got from removing the unit and its ducting. The power consumption of a a nice warm wool blanket and a sweater is pretty minimal, too.

Yes, I don't take the Airstream into really freezing conditions. We've been in the high thirties w/o problems. We will fit one of those beautiful Dickinson propane fireplaces at some point to help us explore Yosemite in the late fall with less of an eye on the weather.

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You mention that you are going to "the west". Some of the west is mountains. Depending on the altitude, generators require alternative carburetor jets.....snip.....
Convert to LPG...the low pressure regulator has a mixture adjustment.

I still lose a bit of efficiency at altitude, but have no start/running problems.

The majority of our camping is in forest CG's, one hour of charging is more than adequate to keep the 2 Lifelines topped.
With strict attention we have gone 3-4 days before reaching the dreaded 12.2v.



I have 30w of flexible panel solar that works well for battery maintenance on the pad but is not helpful at all in the woods.


We used a 1000w Yamaha for 12 years with our 22 Safari. Worked sooper for keeping us powered with the single deep cycle. Went to the new owner and is still going strong.



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That adjustable regulator on the propane system sure makes the conversion attractive!
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That adjustable regulator on the propane system sure makes the conversion attractive!
The lpg gets routed directly to the carb venturi so it can be adjusted at the regulator. (yellow to black hose.)


It would be nice if the threads were finer for a more precise adjustment, but once done and locked it stays put.
We've been to 5000ft with no problems, there is a lot of adjustment left.

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I bought a 2000 gen to keep my options open. I travel in a 2500 so it is no problem. But given a do over I would get a 1000. Awful easy to pack and move.
If you moderate your use you will probably only have to recharge once or twice during your stay. It is not like you have to run the gen every day. You are going to need to dump once too.
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You mention that you are going to "the west". Some of the west is mountains. Depending on the altitude, generators require alternative carburetor jets.
Great advice! I had thought about needing to re-jet, but I'm sure I will need to if we go with a generator. We will be camping at around 7,000 feet in Sequoia NP. A couple of our other stops will be around 5,000 feet I think.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #27
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Our 25FB had a 150 watt solar panel. It was not enough to recover from over night furnace usage. We had LED lights.
The furnace is my biggest concern. It's hard to predict what it will use since it depends on so many variables. I know lowering the setpoint will help reduce the fan run time, but I will have a 14 month old with me and want to keep the temp around 65 at night to keep her warm enough.
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Truck drivers use 12 volt electric blankets. You could keep your baby warm with one and consume much less power.
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