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Old 05-08-2007, 10:52 PM   #15
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The PO of our Tradewind did a lot of dry camping in mid and eastern Oregon. Although the trailer is sound and has no under carriage damage it was VERY dusty in all the little pockets of space one doesn't normally see. So it is not air tight.

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Old 05-09-2007, 08:03 PM   #16
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You may also want to replace your axles to get a greater angle to give you more ground clearance.
Can you change out axles for ones with greater angle? Thought that only worked with torsion axles that had worn out and lost their positive angle.

I traded in an off-road pop-up for my 22' CCD. Bought the 22' mainly due to it's ability to get to places a longer trailer can't. I wouldn't think of going to areas with the AS I did in the pop-up. At the same time, about an inch more ground clearance would open up quite a few more possibilities...

Has anyone changed axles on a newer AS for greater ground clearance? Tried a search but didn't come up with anything.... jk
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:17 PM   #17
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Has anyone changed axles on a newer AS for greater ground clearance? Tried a search but didn't come up with anything.... jk
Nevermind. Just did another search and found out you can. Will have to look into that. Would still like to hear from some who have done it. how it rides, issues, etc.

Not looking to add alot. Maybe an inch or so. That with 16" wheels should work out great. jk
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:01 PM   #18
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Thanks for all the info. The spots we travel to in Nevada are around the Black Rock Desert and I can get close (5-10 miles) to the area we like exploring. The roads to this point are probably ok for all trailers, however I like camping next to water (small streams) as it is cooler and you get to see much more wildlife. I looked at the Basecamp and they are not self contained (as in bathroom) and that won't float with the wife. Also I am leaning toward dual axle because of the sharp rocks (lots of obsidian) in the road base and four tires are better than two. This is not 4x4 stuff, just gullys and washouts. The 23' safari and international sleep more than two and seem to have potential....thanks again for all the input. bob
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:52 PM   #19
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I was on a solo road trip to Iowa with my Safari this week. There was plenty of time for thinking and an old relevant thread came to mind. Get under the trailer and observe the shape and dimension of the empty water tank. Fill the tank and notice how bowed down it has become. This is entirely normal but does increase its vulnerability. This applies only to the newer large tanks that I mentioned in post 5.
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:08 PM   #20
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Washboard roads have done considerable damage to my Sovereign; axles, shocks, frame damage and loose flooring. It's a 73 and maybe a newer one would fare better. Shorter and lighter I think is also better. I don't think there are any better made trailers than AS, but they are delicate in their own right, especially the skin.

Last summer I saw a small trailer designed for off road. Clearance was 18" to 2 feet! with beefy suspension. Don't remember the brand.

It's hard to have your cake and eat it too. Maybe tow your AS in with a good 4x4 and throw a tent in the back. But of course your wife may not leave the AS.
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Old 05-12-2007, 07:51 PM   #21
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Fleetwood makes the Evolution 2 with a toilet & Shower

Check out this one for off road camping: Fleetwood | Camping Trailers | Camping Pop Up Trailer | Folding Trailers

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Old 05-12-2007, 07:54 PM   #22
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You'd about have to strap that shower on....
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:09 PM   #23
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We had a Starcraft version of the off road popup. We went amazing places in it and it was truly a great little trailer.
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:22 PM   #24
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Check out this link: Hamnqvist 2006 summer vacation: Day 31 -- Resting in Fairbanks, AK

This is what happened to an Airstream on an Alaskan highway.......
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:30 PM   #25
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But one might question our wisdom of travelling on this sort of a road with nice rims.
Regarding the Airstream, you could say the same, although I'm sure they knew before they went some of what they were getting into and made a conscious decision to go for it. I'm not knocking their decision, but with the roads up there, vehicle damage is a way of life from everything I've read and heard and should be expected.
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:06 PM   #26
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I am a 2006 newbie Airstream and trailer owner for that matter. We retired the tent camping in 2006 and looked over a group of Airstreams on the lot in Denver and found the 23 foot would fit OUR needs for what we call Rockdocking camping.

I am a retired geologist and my wife a retired, normal human being. This trailer will go to 80% of the off the paved roads listed on the DeLorme state atlas you are or could currently be using for reference. I by no means, go where damage WILL be done to the trailer, but COULD if you are inexperienced. If you are well endowed, with common sense, you will be able to keep up with us in a few years. The 25 footer is just too long. The other DOUBLE AXLE trailers under 23 feet would be easier to back out of tough spots, but you will always had wished you had the extra space the 23 footer offers. The double axle will give you the several inch clearance you need for the plumbing and the small bumper skids occasionally make up for the extended bumper getting in the way.

Dust is a problem I brought up today on the forum...Getting inside the trailer. Bolts do back out in the cabinet hardware, which is also on today's forum. All can be handled. My biggest complaint for the 23 foot is that Airstream must have received a whopper deal on the currently used 14 inch trailer tires and wheels, and I believe they are UNDERSIZED for this weight of trailer. They should have been Load D, 15 inch tires & wheels. My original Goodyear tires were gravel punctured the first trip, unrepairable, one at a time. I have a set of 4 Power Max, 2 steel belted tires, that have been holding up fine up to now. Even a stone on an asphalt road would puncture through the tread and four plies. The same will apply to your tow vehicle's tires. The extra weight on the rear tires will give factory tires a short life. I went to 15 inch, Goodrich, D range tires and love them. The last 3,000 miles of Nevada, Utah and Colorado with no flat tires... for once.

Give me a call if you have further questions. I love the Airstream and will enjoy it more when I get the correct optional materials bolted on as well. 303-979-1889. We call our selves Rockdocking fools, and love every minute of it. When the ATV's drive by they break their neck trying to figure out how this Airstream found its way up that forest road.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:26 PM   #27
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My sediments exactly. Sixteen inch wheels would let us use Lt tires and life would be sweet. Bye the bye, what does one become when they're a retired normal human being?
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