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Old 05-13-2015, 06:43 PM   #71
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We signed on last week for July 13. I failed to follow that with a post here.

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Old 05-13-2015, 07:02 PM   #72
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Looking forward to meeting everyone.

We already have a group of four rigs. Pretty good on fairly short notice.

Looking at the map.....Dubois, WY may be doable next year, depending on elevations needing to be driven to.

I will undoubtedly challenge myself some on this trip, may find I can do more than I think.


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Old 05-14-2015, 07:12 AM   #73
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Shelly and I will be there, and at least one of us is excited! Shelly is still scratching her head wondering why we are going to look for rocks. But, she'll be the one finding more, or better ones than me. We will plan on going to Gila cliff dwellings sometime while we are there. I was there around 1970, and want to see it again.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:05 AM   #74
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We wanna, wanna, wanna , GO!!! Jan and I (Ed) will be there in July. Really looking forward to learning and sharing a great experience, so add another Interstate to the group. My only question is our height (almost 10 feet) and our ground clearance, but we always seem to solve all those little inconveniences.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:09 AM   #75
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Yeay!!

Getting a crowd.....and another Interstate!

Ray has assured me an Interstate will have no problem, so we should be good to go.

If you have never dry-camped, this should be an excellent, break-in adventure.



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Old 05-14-2015, 02:54 PM   #76
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Private Messages answered for all to see...

I had a couple PM Private Messages, that probably many others are also curious about.

Clarifying DATES for Quemado.

June 15th I will be watering up, topping off my gasoline tank and getting back into the Boondocking area to check on road conditions and the access to "hunter's camps". Also figure out how I will have trailers enter, park and detach the tow vehicle. I do not plan to be there very long, as will be leaving there in a day or two. Anyone is welcome to show up and plan to be in Quemado, NM, finish what I need to do, check with the Forest Service office about maps of the Gila National Forest. This is really a "work detail for my wife and I" just so I have a good sense of where everyone can or could be fitted.

July 13 is the recommended date to come. I will be staying longer and actually explain what we are doing, and how to "find" these unusually formed chalcedony "agates". This is the real opportunity. June 15 is checking available camp sites and just road conditions. We will be leaving as soon as I am satisfied we have room and access. A 5 to 7 days camped will give myself and everyone a taste of this area.

Read the Thread. If you cannot figure out the times and dates, you need to look harder.

Another is giving the location in advance.

You will have the location when you arrive at the campsite. If I pull from my GPS a location, it could be #97 and put you in some meadow where I found some nice chalcedony where there is no road or trail. I can drive from Colorado to the camp site without using a map. I carry the Gila National Forest map with me, as there are many roads and some go the... wrong direction.

I have to assure you. As anyone understands that once ONE person knows where this area is... the world will eventually know. After camped in this area the first time, I was within a mile of finding these unusual agates, but left not knowing. We returned the following year because the area was great for exploring and accidentally found our first specimen. No one else has seen this area for chalcedony. Once we are camped, you will be among the small number of people who will know. It will give me some satisfaction knowing that others can spend whatever time exploring, without the sweat equity I put into finding this place. No Rock Hunting Guide will have this within their text. Many will not realize what an opportunity this is for you. Ask my wife about my giving up this chalcedony rosette location... Then you will understand the magnitude of this simple offer.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:07 PM   #77
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Maggie will be the TRIP REGISTRAR- July 13th Trip

Maggie was so gracious to keep track of who is coming. She will need your Forum Name, Name, Cell Phone if one while on the road, and the length of your trailer, pop up, tent or RV. I need to have an idea how to arrange as many in an area that is central.

There are two camp sites within a half mile from another. One is right next to the improved all weather road, but had a tougher access angle from the main road.

The second has more options to park and an easier angle off the main road that a longer than 25 foot in tow might need a few leveling blocks to keep the plumbing up high enough to clear while coming down to the side road. Going OUT is easy as you are going UP. The going IN you are dropping down and the plumbing and the bumper needs to clear.

If anyone is confused as to the date, times or where to meet... read the posts.

We will be leaving Quemado, NM at 2:30PM on July 13. If everyone is accounted for, we will leave as soon as everyone is watered up, topped off their gasoline tanks and we need to get into the forest while we have sunlight. Any Airstream or trailer sitting along side the road in Quemado will not leave you behind. Just follow the last trailer as we head south on Highway 32 to the Apache National Forest boundary.
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Oh Ray

When I Pm'd you about about dates I was jokingly going to ask " in 20 words or less what are the dates ".

I am reading the posts but you do meander a bit.

Okay got the arrival date/meet up date, July 13. When will you be staying through please.

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Ray asked, and, of course, I agreed......

He also said I seem to be the "cheerleader" of this group. Hmmmm.

I can't help it, it is exciting!

If y'all will pm me your information, I will create a document on Pages on my IPad to keep it, and you have my word it will go nowhere other than to Mr. Eklund via a pdf. document thru personal email, at the appointed time.

It won't be shared with anyone else, and will be deleted from my IPad once arrangements are complete and it is sent to Ray. Your information is safe with me.

Meanwhile.....I have ordered four of the 2.5 gallon, collapsible water containers.

40 gallons of water should get Lily & I thru a week.

We're not going to really be rally-style, are we, Ray? As in potlucks? I just don't have frig capacity for anything more than myself for a week.


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Do Not be Nervous about ROAD ACCESS

I had posted some years ago about getting your trailer across ditches and turning off onto a road that is below the main road. This is WHAT THIS trip is going to teach you. You will not be on your own and left to fend for yourself. I do want everyone to get an A and not a poor grade for not watching your "plumbing".

It is easier if I explain a few things to make you comfortable.

I or anyone else who has "Rockdocking" experience IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW to navigate without doing damage to your trailer. My wife and I work as a
TEAM and you and your wife will be trained by the time you leave camp. There are no classes on how to do this. Those experienced will be there, or I will be there to get the chain started, to make you competent for this and any other off the grid experience. We learned the hard way using common sense and learning how to use what we had with us to navigate some very... interesting situations. All were successful and YOU WILL BE TOO.

You will need to understand that you need to be thinking ahead on this kind of adventure. I am looking a mile ahead for dust. It could be a vehicle going towards you, or away. You have to be vigilant knowing where your trailer is on the road. You will always be watching the clearance of your plumbing when changing elevations. You, you, you. If YOU are not sure about clearance, have someone watch and guide you through.

You have to have "leveling blocks". If you are short some, we will offer ours if needed. Even a two foot 2x12 inch board can be a bridge to anywhere!

IF everyone on this adventure is new at this... my wife and I will teach each and everyone how. Part is watching. Part is our making you do it. There is no embarrassment in not knowing. When we teach YOU, you will be helping the next in line.

Actually. This is more the purpose of having this trip. The chalcedony rosettes are YOUR BONUS for making such an effort. Look up New Mexico Chalcedony on Ebay for varieties. Your finds will reward your... stress at the beginning.

When "following" the trailer ahead of you on a dusty road... keep back far enough so you are not "eating dust". Sometimes a strong cross wind helps, sometimes you need to lay back and let the dust blow off the road. Nobody is going to be left or stranded. When the front trailer stops... you will just close in and stop.
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Oh Ray

When I Pm'd you about about dates I was jokingly going to ask " in 20 words or less what are the dates ".

I am reading the posts but you do meander a bit.

Okay got the arrival date/meet up date, July 13. When will you be staying through please.

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He does meander a bit....part of his charm.


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Trailer Parking Plan at one or both Camp Sites

It is important to understand that, depending on the number of Rockdockers, a camp site needs to be organized to fit as many trailers within comfort.

They also have to be arranged so that if someone wants to leave... they can hook up and drive out without everyone needing to move their parked trailer. Sounds simple and common sense doesn't it. Well... it is not. Ask General Patton at the Battle of the Bulge and the massive traffic jams.

I will try to accommodate as many at the main site as possible. I have no clue exactly how many will actually arrive. Once we leave Quemado, we will now have a number. Makes me feel like some kind of tour guide, but I have to keep it organized up to this point. After everyone is set up, detached and feeling comfortable, it will be getting around late afternoon.

Interstates are the most mobile. They will actually be the first to be parked.

Trailers in the 16 foot to 23 foot, next. Then the 25's. Then anything longer than 25' will be most likely dropped along side the two rut turn by backing into the spot. There is one access into the camp site. It is NOT a drive through. So each trailer will have to come in, turn around and be facing OUT, towards the entry road.

This is the... "plan". The turning the trailer and tow vehicle around will let anyone leave when they are ready.

The FIRST camp site will be shown to everyone. It is off the main road. Shorter trailers and Interstates will find it the easiest to access. Over 20 feet... it might be a problem for clearing the plumbing. We did it in our 23 footer in 2006, but when the main road is "improved" it changes access to side roads.

Bring a shovel. Bring leveling blocks to level your trailer and for driving over them while turning off the main road so we can get you plumbing to clear.

It takes more time to explain that it will once we get going. Everyone will be watching you, and how you did. There is no hurry. There will be plenty of help, and I am afraid maybe a lot of advice to go with it. But you will learn by doing and teaching the next trailer coming in.

This is why I have to make a June 15th trip. A couple of days figuring out the options and we will be on our way.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:04 PM   #83
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Does anyone have an objection if I post an updated list periodically, of who will be there on which date?


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Old 05-14-2015, 04:32 PM   #84
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RV Park: Apache RV Park

If you google "Trailer Park Reserve New Mexico" there is another option for the longer than 25 foot trailers.

Located 9 miles from Reserve, NM on Highway 12 at Mile Marker 16 toward Apache Creek.
575-533-6166

I have seen it when stopping for groceries or gasoline in Reserve, NM. It is on the north side of the road.

If you look at the map, Apache Creek intersects with Highway 32 going to Quemado.

So you do have another option for a campsite. It appeared to have 40 or more sites. We never stopped, so you can call and find out the details if you decide this is safer.
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