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Old 05-08-2015, 10:18 PM   #15
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Thanks. I do have a compass, being a directionally challenged person.

Quite honestly, looking at the map this is probably at least a 4 day drive for me, each way. I had not planned any long trips this summer and early fall because of the one in place the end of September, so I need to look at some things before I get too much more excited about this.

Also.....I have a deathly fear of heights. Are serious heights involved? No cliff climbing or those little rope ladders to ruins for me. I went over a chain and down the other side at the Blarney Castle in Ireland.....could not get myself to the top of that castle. Aside from the fear of heights, I am 66 years old, pretty healthy but on blood thinners, and not in the kind of shape some of you are.

I have good Keens.....I can walk, I can hike moderately. I cannot climb vertical, or near-vertical heights, nor walk carefully on narrow trails where I could fall thousands of feet if I missed a step.

So, I also wouldn't want to be a wet blanket on anyone else's activities, nor need to be airlifted out.

I need to look at this carefully and think about it, also get some more info as to what will be involved.

I am interested, subscribed here, and we'll see what shakes out.

I think it is a really terrific idea.


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Old 05-09-2015, 10:11 AM   #16
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Ray's pm to me re terrain:

"To hunt theses agates, you will walk several miles at 7,000 feet elevation. No climbing. You will find them in the grass and washouts alongside hills. You can park closer to some spots and walk less near the camp sites."

I can do that.

Any ruins explored will have to meet my physical limitations, or I can look at them thru binoculars.

I have made some calculations and am going to do this.

It will be about a 3,000 mile round trip, but I can take my time and it will be the only thing I am doing the rest of this year at any distance.

It is an opportunity not to pass up, IMO, and I will get to meet and spend some time with......Ray Eklund!


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Old 05-09-2015, 10:25 AM   #17
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June 15th, July 13th or August 10th option

Dates: We plan to be at Quemado, NM on our first trip: June 15, 2015 Monday.

Dates: Meeting at Quemado, NM, the other date between these two options to be determined before June 1st. July 13 (Monday) or August 10 (Monday) is the optional dates. If no one is able to decide by June 1st, we will be probably be on our own schedule in that event.

Anyone wanting to come, pick a date. These three dates will fit our schedule around commitments that are fixed, so any will work for us.

We will be parked at the Sandia Casino, East parking lot for RV's, Sunday afternoon/early evening before the date expected to arrive at Quemado. Then depart to Soccoro, NM Monday AM from Sandia and arrive at Quemado mid afternoon on Monday and drive to the camping area. We will fill our water tanks at the Forest Service office at Quemado and refuel at Quemado.

The Forest Service locks their water pump so you must be there before 5PM. Go to the office and they will give you the key to remove the lock.

This makes it easier now for those interested to decide their schedule. If it happens to be wet, we can park overnight in Quemado. It will be easy to spot one or more Airstreams in town as it is a small community. Ice can be purchased in Quemado, if needed.

The drive to any campsite is less than 40 miles.
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Old 05-09-2015, 10:39 AM   #18
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I like the August 10th date, best, as there is a grandchild birthday the end of July, but I could absolutely do July 13th if that is better for others.



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Old 05-09-2015, 12:06 PM   #19
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Sounds like fun! Will an Interstate fit in?
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:08 PM   #20
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It surely will .


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Old 05-09-2015, 01:07 PM   #21
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Still raining at Castle Rock... Snow expected tomorrow. New Mexico will be a treat.

April 12, 2012 LOST- Gila Wilderness National Forest Rockdocking

This is under Boondocking. A post from several years ago. Would apply to this same area.

Someone with a trailer or RV longer than 25 feet can navigate the main county road into this area. Since Airstream trailers have low clearance, good for highways but tight for anything else, you might be able to find a place to park a trailer in Quemado and commute. The Forest Service might let you park in their large lot that is shared with the Fire Fighters.

The Gila Cliff Dwellings parking lot is next to the ruins. You walk up some steps, as these are along the cliff, but an easy walk. These are in as nice a condition as the Mesa Verde ruins. There is also, I recall, a RV Park just south of the ruins. Check me on that one, as I only went their once in 2006 or 2007. These ruins are not like Cliff House where you have to scale tall ladders to get out. Although, that was a bit entertaining.
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Ray, there is a campground near the Gila cave dwellings and an RV/motel at the junction of NM 15/36. It had 5-7 spaces, friendly owners. This was 2 years ago.

We went up 15 from Silver City with our 27' EB. There were signs regarding trailer lengths restrictions. As a newbies, didn't pay too much to them as I thought they were for semi's. The campground owner was surprised that we made it up 15. Used most of the road going around some corners, glad it was in Feb., not tourist time. He asked if we would go back down 15, no we aren't that crazy!

Would our EB be suitable for your rock docking? No firm plans as of now, just mulling it over. Our TV is a Jeep GC Overland 4 wheel drive.

Don't ask about Palo Verde and the Opal Hill Mine!

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Very interested. We live in Alamogordo, NM. We have stayed at Casitas before. I'm restoring my Argosy, and we haven't done any off the grid camping yet. Would love to join sometime after the July 4th weekend and before August. Have you encountered monsoon rains in July? We get them in Alamogordo.
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I might be able to be there on June 15....
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Love the July 13 date as I'll be back at work in August and still in WA state on June 15.
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I can't be there before at least the July date, as I have commitments here thru the middle of June.



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Old 05-09-2015, 06:12 PM   #27
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I would like to do a week of wilderness rockdocking ....I love the sound of that..... and think that is doable if I bring extra water.

Am looking at the Reliance 2.5 gallon collapsible jugs, which compact down to about 2" when empty.

Anyone have any experience with these?


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This is my "Introduction to Rockdocking" with LITTLE RISK

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Ray, there is a campground near the Gila cave dwellings and an RV/motel at the junction of NM 15/36. It had 5-7 spaces, friendly owners. This was 2 years ago.

We went up 15 from Silver City with our 27' EB. There were signs regarding trailer lengths restrictions. As a newbies, didn't pay too much to them as I thought they were for semi's. The campground owner was surprised that we made it up 15. Used most of the road going around some corners, glad it was in Feb., not tourist time. He asked if we would go back down 15, no we aren't that crazy!

Would our EB be suitable for your rock docking? No firm plans as of now, just mulling it over. Our TV is a Jeep GC Overland 4 wheel drive.

Don't ask about Palo Verde and the Opal Hill Mine!

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We towed our 23 footer north on Highway 15 to the Gila Cliff Dwellings thinking there were some Forest Service pull outs, which there were none. I would believe that the RV Park would still be there. Looked like some Full Timers might be parked in there as well that work in the area. The trip towing is not impossible, but one round trip was enough for me. Just a lot of up, down and around...


There is one Forest Service road running North and South from north of Mimbres on Highway 35 called FR150. Forest Road 150 (gravel/dirt) runs to Highway 59, that comes in from the East from Winston, sort of... since the roads are all a bit irregular in this former mining area.

There is a LARGE warning sign about towing trailers on the North entry, just south a little from Highway 59. You get about a third of the way to Mimbres and there is one dip in the road that will hang up a 23 footer and then Rocky Canyon further to the south will tear your axles off the trailer... but the tow vehicle will make it. The sign is telling you the truth. I DID this in 2006 when they had just graded the road. The entire route, dragged skids at the dip. The following year we drove to Rocky Canyon, about mid way and it had washed out again.

Where we are going is a very mild off the grid trip and for those who have never tried this it will be a great opportunity to try. We now park the trailer at the first nice convenient spot and drive to any rougher roads. So, nobody should think that I am taking you on a "wreck our trailer jaunt through the forest"...

Tell us more about your experience at the Casitas. Their chalcedony rosettes were from this same Volcanic Caldera... probably was larger than Yellowstone before it blew.
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