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Old 02-07-2016, 06:06 AM   #85
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Like I said earlier, I am a fan of these and would use them.

But, while some are asking for reliable information, I feel compelled to question the repeated assertion that urine is sterile. Google "is urine sterile", and come to your own conclusion.
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:15 AM   #86
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Within minutes of eating asparagus, urine has a unique smell. The color of mine reflects my level of hydration. The kidneys are removing impurities from the blood which goes out as a part of the urine. If a person has Aids, that disease can bet retransmitted via boldly fluids of which urine is a part.

Our female dogs created a white spot in the yard grass when they peed which did not happen with the male dogs.

Most guys have watered the trees in the woods since the beginning of time.

So I am wondering about the safe disposal of that fluid.
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If I remember correctly, it takes at least 160 degrees fahrenheit to kill bacteria. Actually we boil water to make it safe if unknown where it comes from. How can just warming the waste up enough to evaporate off the water content make it safe.
I believe it only makes it easier to handle.
Urine is sterile, but only until it is exposed to air. Then it is a perfect food for bacteria. Just smell it after a day sitting out. That is the byproduct of bacteria.
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about once a week, no biggie, usually pour it into a toilet, but since it's sterile, sometimes outside diluted into the garden...

Although it is considered "common knowledge" that urine is sterile, I don't think that is really so.

"RIO DE JANEIRO — Brazilian researchers said Friday that they had found the “active” presence of the Zika virus in saliva and urine samples, raising the possibility that the infection could be spread through kissing and other contact involving bodily fluids."

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Don't buy one and you won't die. Problem solved.
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Wow, nice attitude.

So much about trying to be helpful.

Since it seems that BoldAdventure is unable to provide any reliable information, and easily gets his feathers ruffled at the polite request for real information, does anyone know the actual time that it takes for the waste to become safe to handle?

I have been and still am very interested in getting a composting toilet but I prefer to be properly informed before actually making the purchase.

I would very much appreciate any information anyone has to share that is not opinion or conjecture.

BoldAdventure, I am sorry that you seem to get all bent out of shape every time someone asks for some backing to the information you share (see your lithium battery thread). We could all have a much more productive discussion on these topics if you did not get bent out of shape so easily.

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Old 02-07-2016, 01:50 PM   #91
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Check out the manufacturers websites for all the details. The composting happens via dehydration.

Urine is not sterile, but bacterial contamination is extremely low when it leaves the body. Very few illnesses can get transmitted through urine, this excludes the HIV virus which is only transmitted through blood, semen or viginal fluid. Not all bodily fluids are created equal.
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Don't buy one and you won't die. Problem solved.

Whoa there buddy!

I was just pointing out that contrary to the current common narrative, urine ain't sterile.

I think the claimed sterility of urine is one of those stories that kinda grew legs because it was thought of as a "shocking truth", irrespective of the fact that it ain't true.


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Speaking of toilets, this looks interesting. Imagine using the loo and having it charge your batteries!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainab...ane-technology


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For folks who want to stay out away from dump stations for several days or weeks at a time composting toilets might be a good answer, but not for me.

I went the other direction. I have a flush toilet. Eight "full" flushes to a full and heavily diluted black tank. I use Clorox to treat the tank, odor is near ZERO even at the end of the dump hose.

When I drain the tanks, I usually always manage to keep my hands clean and dry.

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I'm not bent out of shape, but I am tired of passive aggressive posts with insults thrown in. I posted my install, to share and help others who might want to install one.

If you think my statements are suspect, or wrong, and incorrect, please link me to the correct information and I'll change my opinion. But don't ask me to find it for you.

I'm sure someone else can continue to answer questions in this thread.
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Not bent out of shape?

Re-read my question and you will see that all I did was politely ask where you got the information you provided? If you can't stand people asking you to tell us where you got your information, then I don't know what to say.

I am still hoping someone can corroborate the information.

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If you think my statements are suspect, or wrong, and incorrect, please link me to the correct information and I'll change my opinion. But don't ask me to find it for you.

I'm sure someone else can continue to answer questions in this thread.




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This PDF may help: http://humanurehandbook.com/downloads/Chapter_6.pdf

Page 107 (not in the PDF but from the source) suggest 2 months for a non-heat compost.

I don't know how authoritative the source is - but it's a source.
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