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Old 08-01-2016, 11:19 AM   #57
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For me my Classic 30 is just right.
I do have triple axle 34 envy, but I think I would find myself having difficulty in some campgrounds.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:20 AM   #58
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I had a 28' before the 30'.
I can't tell the difference towing or parking.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:13 PM   #59
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We went from a Safari 28 to a Flying Cloud 30. I am pleasantly surprised that I hardly notice the extra 3' when backing, if at all. It seems that Airstream has the axles in the ideal spot. Other than the slightly greater parking space needed I would not factor that into your decision. The Flying Cloud 30 had an inverse floor plan from all the 28w models and we really prefer that. We love it!
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Be mindful of the trailer tracking behind you. I'm always concerned with narrow winding roads that don't have a shoulder. You have to go a little wider so you trailer tires don't go off the edge. My tow mirrors have convex mirrors on the bottom so I can check how the trailer tracks around sharp corners. I notice even my 25fb tracks closer to the edge than my truck. Typically when I have go a little wider for my trailer an oncoming truck pulling a 5th wheel is approaching.

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Old 08-02-2016, 11:16 AM   #61
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...while watching your trailer tires in your rearview mirror making sure they don't track into the ditch, sign, light pole, parked car, bush, tree...
That's the key-
Knowing where your trailer tires are-
And slow, easy, gentle-
If you see it won't clear you have an opportunity to adjust or correct and avoid an incident that would cause a bad day.


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Old 08-02-2016, 12:19 PM   #62
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Besides, the 30' AS is not really 30'. Its about 28'. It's 30'11" to the ball hitch, which IMO doesn't count. But I don't make the measuring rules...
Well that is just about 3 feet and dependent on the situation that may be significant.

As others have noted the length may not be an issue in many campgrounds sites. What you sometimes have to consider is the width of the campground roads in turns. Also you have to consider sometimes is the space allotted for the tow vehicle and trailer. I've encountered some very tight back in's where the space for the trailer is adequate, but the maneuvering room on the road is compromised by those who park their tow vehicle perpendicular to the site which effectively minimizes your swing room as the tow vehicle turns during the back in to the site. Those are the toughest situations.

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Old 08-21-2016, 09:42 PM   #63
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I have had a 30' Classic since 2007 and have decided to downsize to a 19' Bambi for that very reason. I live in California and usually can only camp on the weekends and holidays, so it is difficult to begin with but with the added length I find my self not being able to stay at my favorite State Parks. If you don't mind RV Parks or can camp during the week 30' is a wonderful size, but if you want to do State Parks on Weekends or Holidays it certainly takes patience.
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30'....just right?

As one who has had a 25', 27', then a 44' moho, I find the 30' Serenity about right. Or at least a decent compromise of space and length. The real reason I purchased the 30' model was the larger water tank. Makes boondocking easier, IMO.

As to backing up, it is like real estate when they say "location, location, location" but in backing up it is "slowly, slowly, slowly".

There is a concern with some small campgrounds and the tight corners, but this is in all cases I have been in, simply that one needs to understand how the truck/trailer tracks, then no problems should be encountered. My theory is to use all the available road to get around the corners in a campground, again, going slowly. Traffic in campgrounds generally understand the issues and are usually quite polite in allowing full use of the road as necessary.

So, while I did encounter some issues with my 44' moho, including repairing the side where I hit a guard rail sticking out into the road, so far I have not had these with the 30' Serenity, thank you Higher Power.
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There sure are a lot of parks along the coast in California with limits under 25'.
This would become a real factor if that is the area where you do your R V ing.

Those limits plus parks being all booked from months out make it a challenge to enjoy the area from an R V. Unless you are equipped properly and plan for it well in advance.

Sounds like you are moving the right direction for your area.

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As one who has had a 25', 27', then a 44' moho, I find the 30' Serenity about right. Or at least a decent compromise of space and length. The real reason I purchased the 30' model was the larger water tank. Makes boondocking easier, IMO.

As to backing up, it is like real estate when they say "location, location, location" but in backing up it is "slowly, slowly, slowly".

There is a concern with some small campgrounds and the tight corners, but this is in all cases I have been in, simply that one needs to understand how the truck/trailer tracks, then no problems should be encountered. My theory is to use all the available road to get around the corners in a campground, again, going slowly. Traffic in campgrounds generally understand the issues and are usually quite polite in allowing full use of the road as necessary.

So, while I did encounter some issues with my 44' moho, including repairing the side where I hit a guard rail sticking out into the road, so far I have not had these with the 30' Serenity, thank you Higher Power.
You have got the trailer towing basics down.
You understand how it works.
Cheat. Get all you can get when making turns.
Push-pull on the wheel to keep you in control and moving slow...
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The main problem you will have with a longer trailer is finding a spot in a National Park. Not that you can't, but a lot of sites won't accommodate a longer trailer.

A important factor is maneuverability. Not as easy to find a place for a U turn, harder to get into some campsites, and harder to see what the back end of the trailer is doing (ask me how I know)

Don't overlook layout. I have a 25 footer and a 34 footer. Also had a bunch of other Airstreams. The 25 footer is laid out more conveniently than any of the trailers I have had.

If I am doing a multiple stop road trip I take the 25. If I am going to be in one place for a while I take the 34.
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Length

Good point about CA parks especially along the coast. Many will not accept a trailer more than 27 feet and some limit it to 23 feet. But, these locations are very popular and hard to access without a reservation planned way ahead. When I had a tent trailer that would go anywhere I found that when you are limited to under 27 feet, the sites are very close together. I find I prefer a campground that accommodates up to 35 foot trailers because of sites with more space between you and other campers along with more privacy. After living with our Safari 28' for 10 years, we found we never go to campgrounds that we can't park a 31 foot Airstream. There are parks in British Columbia where back in can be tricky because of the layout. However, taking an extra few minutes will solve the problem with the longer trailer.
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I guess part of the answer is where you are geographically.
Living in Mississippi and camping from Texas east I have not found a campground that could not accommodate a 30' trailer.
Maybe we will make it to some national parks one day.
My boss went to some national parks in a 40' Tiffin Phaeton motorhome with a toad.
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As one who has had a 25', 27', then a 44' moho, I find the 30' Serenity about right. Or at least a decent compromise of space and length. The real reason I purchased the 30' model was the larger water tank. Makes boondocking easier, IMO.

As to backing up, it is like real estate when they say "location, location, location" but in backing up it is "slowly, slowly, slowly".

There is a concern with some small campgrounds and the tight corners, but this is in all cases I have been in, simply that one needs to understand how the truck/trailer tracks, then no problems should be encountered. My theory is to use all the available road to get around the corners in a campground, again, going slowly. Traffic in campgrounds generally understand the issues and are usually quite polite in allowing full use of the road as necessary.

So, while I did encounter some issues with my 44' moho, including repairing the side where I hit a guard rail sticking out into the road, so far I have not had these with the 30' Serenity, thank you Higher Power.
PERFECT solution! have two AS' love that idea ... weekender trips to parks with length limits take out the small unit. My 31' Land Yacht is like a palace inside compared to the smaller ones but kinda which I'd gone for a 28' model. Although not entirely sure how much of a difference that would really make when on the road for manoeuvring tight parks and gas stations etc. Still have my popup for parks like DL Bliss at Tahoe, with very short restrictions but love the idea of second trailer 20' or so for overnight weekend trips etc. I can park at home, can't imagine paying storage fees on two units ! The going rate where i live is $100/120.00 / month
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