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Old 08-26-2009, 11:34 AM   #41
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Necessity and imagination can bring one to mind. If you want to keep poop and paper out of your black tank you could:

Bring along a bunch of NEW UNUSED (ie no holes in them) plastic grocery bags.
Lift lid and ring, line bowl with plastic bag
Use facilities
Tie up bag tightly
Put bag in large trash bag
Place in locking covered canister secured to top of tow vehicle
Dispose of properly
I think any solution that involves plastic shopping bags would be even more harmful to the environment than simply using the toilet as intended and emptying into an RV dump. At least then the sewage will be properly treated and the water recycled.


As for the recycling shower - ewwwww!
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:50 PM   #42
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I think any solution that involves plastic shopping bags would be even more harmful to the environment than simply using the toilet as intended and emptying into an RV dump. At least then the sewage will be properly treated and the water recycled.
Agree totally! Besides putting something in the trash, that doesn't belong there, for some unsuspecting person to have to deal with is so disrespectful.

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Old 08-26-2009, 04:44 PM   #43
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Having the answer to the problem by inventing a composting toilet & then charging $1600 to buy it is beyond disrespectful. Let's just say every way of thinking could use a little tweeking.It's not the first time a great idea went down the tube because of cost or marketing or public opinion.Snagging an unwrapped bag of you know what is just as bad as sniffing a rose only to find it was cultivated in human excrement.Put a fancy name on it 'bio-degraded' & people will line up for miles to smell the delicate scent.Stay positive please.All the world's problems will not be solved,at least not tonight.Camp on.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:53 PM   #44
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Maybe I can save the planet! BIO BAG is a 100 percent bio-degradable plastic bag made from corn.One application is as a toilet liner approved for THE SWISS ARMY ! Take a (restroom) break an check out this product.I hope it doesn't cost $1600.I have a swiss army knife,maybe a matching toilet too in the near future.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:48 PM   #45
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Sorry, didn't mean to get everyone up in arms about the plastic bag method.

It was something I had to do one time only when the flush mechanism quit on my toilet and as there were no facilities anywhere, it was the first thing that came to mind. Plus I brought the bag home with me, flushed the residue into the toilet and the bag went in my fire pit...

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Old 08-26-2009, 07:34 PM   #46
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Here we go, I checked out the Bio Bag site and they have these biodegradable bags for people, dogs and cat litter boxes. $12.99 for people sized.
Just for those times when timing and range from facilities do not correspond....
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:38 PM   #47
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Often wondered where all the deer, elk, bears, and all the other critters get their plastic bags.

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Old 08-26-2009, 09:28 PM   #48
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After years of wilderness travel and tent camping, one of the things I really like is to be able to have a flusher with me as I go about my business.........
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:07 PM   #49
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If worried about what goes into the black tank, you could always use the Bumper Dumper. Please stop the truck first so as no skid marks are left behind.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:28 PM   #50
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wow... i thought this was about going green, not about how to dispose of your toilet waste...
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:11 PM   #51
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Mr. flmgrip,I take my hat off to you!, and place it directly over my face. The old adage 'when there is a problem, take a firm stand' is visually stated here in no uncertain terms. Kudos.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:19 AM   #52
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After all the years as I spent as a backpacking guide in the Sierras, I hope you know I am totally kidding at this point. How did we get off on this topic anyway?

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Greetings All!

We will have our newly finished Eco-Friendly 1962 Flying Cloud on display in Red Wing, MN, on Saturday August 29th. We have done a complete reconstruction (see attached photos) which includes a complete solar power system, composting toilet, cork flooring, bamboo cabinets, and many other eco-friendly features. You can read and see more about this on our blog at: The Flying Cloud Eco-DiscoveryTour . In the meantime, if you are in the Red Wing area, and would like to see what we have done, we will be at:

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Corner of 3rd & Plum St. (By the big mural-Across from Liberty Restaurant)
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:51 AM   #54
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Very nice job. How many watts is that solar panel?
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Thanks! There are two (one on each side) 100W each
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Having the answer to the problem by inventing a composting toilet & then charging $1600 to buy it is beyond disrespectful.
Sixteen hundred dollars would be pretty high indeed. As I recall, sixteen hundred is about what a boyfriend paid for his first VCR. This is one problem with new technology and ideas. It's usually quite high for the first generation or two and then prices start plunging to the level just about everyone can afford. Last time I checked a VCR sold for around forty bucks.

If your interested the composting toilet mentioned above sells for $850.
A Nature's Head Composting Toilet Nature's Head Composting Toilet [] - $850.00 : Nature's Head, Inc.


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Old 08-27-2009, 04:54 PM   #57
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That is SO BEAUTIFUL!! I was looking at your photos, the one that shows the desk area, is the scooped out part so you can swivel the chairs around? Plus I love your solar set up. My Tradewind came with a small 75 watt solar panel and I wished I could add another panel, but with all the vents and fans, didn't think I could do it. Duh! Putting them side by side would work great. Wish you were coming to southern California area so I could see your trailer....

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Thanks Carol!

Yes, the scoops allow the chairs to swivel and give us a lot more room. We will eventually be coming to SoCal, so will keep you on the list!
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After all the years as I spent as a backpacking guide in the Sierras, I hope you know I am totally kidding at this point. How did we get off on this topic anyway?

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I just want to keep the tradition alive (see my post 23).

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