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09-04-2015, 04:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2011 27 FB International
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 78
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Boondocking Water Tank Question
I have a 2011 27FB International I am thinking about replacing the toilet with a composting toilet and removing the black tank. I thought I could either add another grey tank or fresh water tank. I have not gone boondocking yet, but would like to.
So my question is those that have gone boondocking a lot, would you recommend adding another grey water tank or fresh water tank? Which would be more beneficial?
Thanks!! (And sorry if I asked something that has already been asked, I could not find any threads exactly like this.)
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09-04-2015, 05:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
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I would vote for an additional fresh water tank, as you can frequently dump dishwater and bath water away from your campsite to keep it out of the grey tank.
It's an adequate supply of fresh water and a too full black tank that become the issue with boondocking....but you've the the black tank problem covered.
But, that's just me.
Maggie
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09-04-2015, 05:21 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
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yup, I dump grey water pretty regularly when boondocking. That being said, out black tank lasts us 14~18 days - just recently it lasted us 18 days which I think was the longest. I kept stepping outside to a tree away from the camp site for #1.
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09-04-2015, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
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If only we women found peeing that simple.
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09-05-2015, 08:23 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Fresh water is the first to run out as stock tank is only 40 gallons. Not too much of a problem. We carry a small a.c. powered water pump and pump it into the tank. If no water is available, we fill 6 gallon plastic jerry cans to replenish water.
It is great to go green with a composting toilet, but I wouldn't rip my conventional one out until I get reviews of how well they work in a R.V. application.
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09-05-2015, 02:21 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
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09-05-2015, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kstewart23
I have a 2011 27FB International I am thinking about replacing the toilet with a composting toilet and removing the black tank. I thought I could either add another grey tank or fresh water tank. I have not gone boondocking yet, but would like to.
So my question is those that have gone boondocking a lot, would you recommend adding another grey water tank or fresh water tank? Which would be more beneficial?
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I would go boondocking with what you have right now and see if you need or want to change the basic self contained AS system at all.
You may just find that it is unnecessary to remove the original toilet and black water tank, and install a large composting toilet and all of that when you have had no experience with boondocking to begin with.
Not trying to sound negative here, just try what you have first, then if it does not work, you will have some reason for making changes.
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09-05-2015, 04:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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09-05-2015, 04:53 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
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A relatively cheap, disposable device for the women, $.50 ea:
https://www.thepeepocket.com
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09-05-2015, 05:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
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This could be its own thread.... Urination in the Wild.
Maggie
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09-05-2015, 05:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Maitland
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
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The one I'm planning to get:
GoGirl
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09-05-2015, 05:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
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Back to OP's question for a moment. I would say it depends on how long you plan to boondock.
Now that we have a reliable system for tank reports ( See Level installed) we found we can reliably stay out for 2 weeks and I know myself enough that I usually get tired of a spot long before then.
George
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09-05-2015, 07:28 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
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Here's another thought, we've been full time for awhile and generally do national parks, BLM and forest land dry camping and boon docking. For the most part, the max stay I've seen has been between 14-16 days on the high side. And some places less, like 6 days. After about 14 days I'm usually ready to move anyways.
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09-08-2015, 01:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Fitchburg
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I looked at composting toilets at the Miami Boat Show two years ago. The Nature's Head Dry Composting toilet manufacturer told me that for two people it would need to be emptied about every three or four days. Otherwise is looked like a well designed, high quality item. But not for me.
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09-16-2015, 09:08 PM
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Roving Sewist
2003 25' Safari
Sanger
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 27
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Bold and Adventurous... 1. the link too me to your blog that had not been updated since your first week Full-timing... Had any recent articles? 2. I also have a Ram 1500, pulling a 25' Safari. Until I had a tuneup lately, I was thinking it was underpowered. Working fine now. What kind of milage do you get pulling the A/S?
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10-21-2015, 04:16 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' International
Wanamingo
, Minnesota
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 28
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Boondocking with fresh water
My wife & I were campground hosts for 6 weeks in 2012 at Slough Creek Campground in YNP. There are no services at Slough Creek. The park supplied the hosts with solar panels & a 30 gallon water tank with a small 12 volt pump to transfer water to RV tank. I liked the system so designed my own. (see pics) I bought a 50 gallon flat bottom water tank from a farm supply store (make sure to ask if it is approved for potable water) & a 12v demand pump, just like the RV uses. I think the whole system cost around $200. I then built a plywood shelf to fit in the bed of our F-150 to set the tank on & mount the pump to. I wired the pump so I can plug it into my trailer 7-pin plug on the pickup for power. I can either fill the freshwater tank on our Airstream, or hook it to the RV city water hook-up & let the demand pump do it's job when water is needed. The tank is out of the way under our topper & we still have storage below it. Another advantage is I always have a replacement water pump along for the RV should I need it. I never travel with water in the tank. When I need water I make a trip with the pickup, fill the tank, then return to camper to fill tank.
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10-22-2015, 06:06 AM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Scout1 - that's pretty clever and certainly meets your needs.
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10-22-2015, 07:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
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Before you pull your black tank, I would make sure your bathroom sink isn't plumbed into it. Some of the newer AS are...
Kay
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