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Old 11-10-2011, 07:00 PM   #71
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Somebody on these forums said they never use their toilet. They just go in the surrounding area. Anyone want to invent a term for that?

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Old 11-10-2011, 07:38 PM   #72
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:22 PM   #73
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Back to "boondocking"

OK, so back to the original question started by this thread: alternative terms to "Boondocking" (freestyling, etc.). I've always thought the essential requirement for "boondocking" was to do without hookups, and usually, in a "undeveloped" setting. How about "going gridless"? (Off-the-grid camping). Just my $.02.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:32 AM   #74
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Ken, your post regarding rebreathing is interesting. I have wondered about how it could possibly work because of the reasons you explain except I have seen it work. Most cases of altitude sickness are mild and the person will usually recover fast anyway. Anyone who is having problems breathing will probably be anxious and the use of something no matter how silly it might be reassures them they are being treated and will recover.

More severe altitude sickness can be solved by a quick descent and people usually don't have oxygen with them. Fear of heights can also bring anxiety and reassurance is the best treatment for that. The road to Mt. Evans can be scary and once on top you can look down thousands of feet—this can be unnerving. One time I climbed another fourteener and looked over the edge (straight down thousands of feet) and got anxious and my friend told me to breathe into my glove and I felt better. Then I went the last 100' not looking down.

So I think you are probably correct about rebreathing on a physical level, but what the mind does is also important.

Altitude sickness at 7,300' is hardly ever dangerous except for people with lung problems who live at sea level. Rest usually cures it. But I knew someone with lung problems who lived here (close to 7,000') and had to move to a lower altitude.

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Old 11-11-2011, 01:09 PM   #75
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The people that we bought our CO property from had that happen to them. She developed a lung condition that meant she could no longer even visit the property. All their thoughts of building there went out the window. She was even having issues in FTC, which I think is around 5,000.

As for me, I have been a diver for 49 years. I am way familiar with most combinations of gases and their effects, and their treatments.

My own altitude effects were really mild. Not enough for me to even consider coming down out of the hills. Au contraire. I can do mixed gasses in my sleep. I used to have the navy decomp tables memorized. I recognized it for what it was.

Nothing like the headache you get from oil fumes in your air supply, ha ha.

When we were researching properties before settling on this one, we looked at another 35 acre spot ( Colorado standard size lot, it seems) up at 9200 ft. We spent an entire day up on that property walking it, and a lot of climbing was involved. It was all up and down, maybe five acres buildable out of 35. That kind of thing. Great views. I had a pretty decent little headache started after spending all day there at 9200. But I had been at sea level the day before, too.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:51 PM   #76
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I use three settings that I think don't sound like you're trying too hard.
- dry camping (no hookups, whether that's in my uncle's field, in the boondocks, or just a SP without hookups)
- partial hookups (usually juice, sewer is the most rare)
- Full hookups

I guess mine doesn't give you all the color, but it does give people a sense for what you're doing and you can add modifyers (i'm dry camping at the SP) vs (We'll dry camp at a wide spot in the road).
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OK, so back to the original question started by this thread: alternative terms to "Boondocking" (freestyling, etc.).
Let's see…

Unplugged… Nope. Musicians already have a lock on that one.

Bivouacking. That only works for ex-military Airstreamers.

Outbacking… Nah. I'm not Australian.

Rusticating… Uh uh. Rustic isn't always a good thing.

Waldening… Thoreau would roll over in his grave if he heard that one.

Sorry. I've got nothing.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:30 PM   #78
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Boonstreaming?

Alumidocking?

Wallying?

Airing Out?

Dry Streaming?

Freestreaming?

Aluminum-a-minimum?

Fresh Airing?

Non-grid-powered?

Off-gridding?

Windmilling/Airmilling?

SlipStreaming?

Alumicamping?

Aircamping?

Campstreaming?
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I have always referred to camping without hookups as boondocking. It does not mean that you are necessarily out in the boondocks, but that out in the boondocks you do not have any hookups. So boondocking to me just means camping without hookups.

The problem I have with drycamping is this. I used to take my Airstream to a campground in the winter and go skiing. I had electricity, but no water and did not use any of the plumbing in the airstream. I had bottled water for drinking and cooking. There was a heated bathhouse for toilet facilities and taking a shower. This to me was drycamping, because I did not use any of the Airstreams plumbing facilities- they were all dry. Drycamping as a term for no hookups does not work for me because you are using the plumbing facilities and they are indeed wet, not dry.

In the boondocks, you will not have hookups, so boondocking to me means camping without hookups. You can boondock at Walmart, the state park, forest service campgrounds, a music festival, an open field, a wide spot in the road, etc., anyplace that there are no hookups available and camping is allowed.

It also means cheap- certainly low cost and lots of times free.

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Note- in the photo below I am boondocking, no utilities, in the Julian Price campground on the Blueridge Parkway in July, 2011.
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In my area, dry camping means no hookups and typically implies a crappy location, like a parking lot, near an event like a race, ball game or flea market. Boon docking is the same, no hookups, but the location IS the event. I dry camp in parking lots, I boondock under trees near a stream.
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In my area, dry camping means no hookups and typically implies a crappy location, like a parking lot, near an event like a race, ball game or flea market. Boon docking is the same, no hookups, but the location IS the event. I dry camp in parking lots, I boondock under trees near a stream.
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