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03-05-2008, 06:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic S/O
dearborn heights
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2008
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boondocking safety
OK. call me paranoid
would never overnight at a highway rest stop
a big box store parking lot seems only marginally more safe, to me
i'd prefer someplace well off the beaten path, but thats tough to do when you just need to pull off and grab some shut-eye
Urban Boondocking Protocol
(steps in addition to our normal stop procedures- chocking wheels, emergency brake, etc...)
1. remove receiver/shank pin. (so as not to be stuck inside a moving trailer during a GTA)
2. verify my 20, locate nearest police station and program phone number into cell
3. put taser under pillow
4. say my evening prayers
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03-05-2008, 07:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 23' Safari
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 699
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glad I'm not the only one...
not crazy about packing heat on a "camping" trip but a taser...hmm... that might make more sense..
a taser does have a SAFETY , right?
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03-05-2008, 07:51 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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paranoid?
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03-05-2008, 07:54 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Mancos
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 472
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Careful
I have boondocked all over the west in all types of locations. I have the giant 4 Dcell mag light next to my bed. The only time I got the hebees in the middle of the night was when my water pump decided to go on. It is right under my head.
The only time I was disturbed it turned out I was on a ranchers property. I had turned to the wrong side of a dirt road "in the middle of nowhere". Thought I was on BLM which of course was on the other side of the dirt road.
The only time I actually was worried about where I was staying, which was off the beaten path down a side road off the main road, was somewhere around Susanville/Reno. I recognized and accepted my sixth sense, read BLINK, finished my dinner and took off down the road. Ended up staying in the Reno Circus-Circus parking lot.
Bottom line for me is always, if you don't feel comfortable, don't stay.
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03-05-2008, 07:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB International
Evanston
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 103
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Rick,
Your photos are beautiful!
Jerry
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03-05-2008, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Venice
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,067
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One thing about overnighting off the beaten path is that you'll have more time to dispose of the body.
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03-05-2008, 08:21 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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We do truck stops while enroute. Lots of activity and the local constabulary is always there,
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03-05-2008, 08:21 PM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamGypsy
I have boondocked all over the west in all types of locations. I have the giant 4 Dcell mag light next to my bed.
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Get the 6 cell, they are brighter, and do more damage when used as a club. I've used mine several times in the performance of my duties...
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03-05-2008, 11:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Simi Valley
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,251
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i like truck stops, and never forget the box of condoms. kevbo
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03-06-2008, 03:36 AM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AIR4US
OK. call me paranoid
would never overnight at a highway rest stop
a big box store parking lot seems only marginally more safe, to me
i'd prefer someplace well off the beaten path, but thats tough to do when you just need to pull off and grab some shut-eye
Urban Boondocking Protocol
(steps in addition to our normal stop procedures- chocking wheels, emergency brake, etc...)
1. remove receiver/shank pin. (so as not to be stuck inside a moving trailer during a GTA)
2. verify my 20, locate nearest police station and program phone number into cell
3. put taser under pillow
4. say my evening prayers
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I think you need to move out to a safer neighborhood.
Urban is a relative term. Would I spend the night in Dearborn, MI NO! There are many that I would not mind stopping for the evening. Especially west of the Mississippi.
I have stayed the night at a rest stop in Oregon with 10 or so other trucks. No problems. The highway noise was a problem.
I have stayed the night in many Wal-Marts. No problems. Sometimes I am the only one other times there are several trailers.
I have spent many a night at a truck stop. No Problems.
Knowing my location at all times. You bet. If you have a phone made in the last few years it has a GPS chip in it. it will tell 911 where you are if the feature is turned on.
What is a GTA?
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03-06-2008, 03:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Get the 6 cell, they are brighter, and do more damage when used as a club. I've used mine several times in the performance of my duties...
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In the performance of your duties as a moderator??? I guess I better pay attention to my warn meter!
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03-06-2008, 04:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic S/O
dearborn heights
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thecatsandi
I think you need to move out to a safer neighborhood.
Urban is a relative term. Would I spend the night in Dearborn, MI NO!
What is a GTA?
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grand theft auto
comparatively speaking, for cities with ~100k population, Dearborn/Hgts is very low crime rate
are you relying on your own anecdotal data, or simply trolling for flames?
There is plenty of data on the elevated instances of crime at highway rest stops, however. Google it, you might learn something
Vice units have also been cracking down on the illegal activity and sexual deviants that frequent them
Don’t get me wrong, I like excitement- base jumping, trampolines, breathing fire, democrat presidents- but I don't put myself in 'victim' situations
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03-06-2008, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamGypsy
Bottom line for me is always, if you don't feel comfortable, don't stay.
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The trouble here is people that paranoid wouldn't feel comfortable in the back lot of a police station.
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
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03-06-2008, 05:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic S/O
dearborn heights
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 23
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hey, i think theres some synergy here.... a mini police station, like the ones in detroit, at rest stops...
way to go, Happy!
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03-06-2008, 05:50 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic S/O
dearborn heights
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 23
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the point I'm trying to make here is:
1 in every 11 Americans are incarcerated.
the #1 sector in the building industry is correctional facilities.
where do you think all this crime happens?
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03-06-2008, 06:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Air,
crime happens
but it ain't 1880 Tonto basin out there...
chill
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03-06-2008, 06:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Air4us, Not trying to be smart, I think you are in danger every time you leave your house and in some areas when in your house. The point I would like to make is if you are going to enjoy life you have to take a lot of chances. Airstream Gypsy is correct, your first impression is usually the right one if you don't feel good about it get out. I never disconnect my trailer if I am just stopping for the night. Be aware of your surroundings and go have some fun.
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
"Happiness is a warm Puppy" Charles Schulz
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03-06-2008, 06:59 AM
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Cyclist
2007 28' International CCD
Windermere
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 457
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We don't even like to stay at campgrounds where the gates are open at night.
Wouldn't sleep to well at a truck stop or the like.
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03-06-2008, 07:01 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
, earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AIR4US
the point I'm trying to make here is:
1 in every 11 Americans are incarcerated.
the #1 sector in the building industry is correctional facilities.
where do you think all this crime happens?
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Actually, a large portion of those incarcerated are in jail as the result of our bizarre drug policies, not violent crime.
As for me, as a general rule, I figure if a place isn't safe to overnight, its probably not safe during the day either.
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03-06-2008, 07:31 AM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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I've boondocked all over from far south Florida to the Pacific Northwest, and only occasionally feel a sense of uneasyness. Usually it's at a "first time" location where there are no other RV's in sight. The feeling is the same whether I'm the only rig in a campground or I'm parked way off by myself. But then, it is the same feeling I get whenever I start something I know to present dangers, like putting a new roof on my home or driving thru a city for the first time. I proceed but with caution! By the second or third day/night any uneasyness passes and I relax and enjoy. I very rarely overnight at rest areas, too much noise and historically too much crime. I very rarely overnight at truck stops, less than 4 times in 6 years. Too much noise and toooooo many truck drivers with "in your face" attitude!
I do plan my trips in advance so I have a recognized boondocking location for the day's destination and, a "backup plan" just in case!
To "secure" the trailer against GTA while I'm sightseeing, I always put the support feet down and supporting trailer weight. I always put a lock on the ball latch, and I almost always extend the awning at least a foot or two unless the weather is threatening. I try to make it look like it's going to take some work and knowledge of travel trailers to steal it!
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