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Old 08-22-2005, 02:56 PM   #1
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Boondocking and waste

While staying on a cabin at a remote lake 30 west of Yellowstone I noticed a state campground just down the road. That got me thinking about my own camper. The bucks are starting to flow out the door towards that end (starting with the 05 Excursion PS ... the 28 safari will come next). Have lots of questions and this site has helped a bunch. That camp site was about 3 miles of very bumpy road from a paved road. In that situation I cannot see breaking camp to tow to a dump site every few days. What is your best advise? I have been through reinventing the wheel several hundred times in my life and I do not want to do it again. Please give product / size / manufacturer suggestions to deal with this. Perhaps direction to the proper thread is in order.

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Old 08-22-2005, 03:44 PM   #2
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10 Gallon Tote-Along Tanks

Get one or two 10 gallon blue Tote-Along Tanks (Item# 4498) from Camping World (see link). Don't get any larger than 10 gal, so you can lift it.

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/s...=4498&src=SRQB

Dump waste into the Tote-Alongs as needed, lift into Tow vehicle and haul to dump station. Trailer can stay parked.

This is what we do when Boondocking.
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Old 08-22-2005, 03:47 PM   #3
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If your filling a 35 or 39 gallon black tank as found in the 28' Safari line (depending on slide out or not) in a few days, there are issues.

The 28' Safari non slide has 33 gallons of fresh water on board, so you could fill the black tank, but if yer using your freshwater for the head, you'll also be out of fresh water too in most cases. It would be difficult at best to be able to fill both the grey water tank and the black water tank with the on board--33 gallons (let alone every couple of days), unless you add water from a well or some other source. The key is to remember that when your out boondocking, particularly for extended periods, conservation is the key word. Use outhouses (and the woods) where appropriate (for the basic of needs), and you should be just fine for at least a week.

Although I could see an eventual issue depending on how long you stayed, our Safari 25' has an 18 gal black and 39 gal grey. Neither have ever filled yet in over a 9 days worth of boondocking (three adults with plenty of adult beverages consumed). Of course you mileage may vary depending on habbits, etc.
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:53 PM   #4
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Fresh water

What do y'll recommend for extra fresh water? Are the plastic / expandable bladders good?
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I have just purchased my 10 gal tote toady for grey water so I think I am all set for grey water disposal. I am now wondering how to refill the fresh water when needed. I was thinking of buying two of the 5 gallon water canisters from walmart and using them to fill the tank on the as. Is this a common mechanism for filling the freshwater tank?
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I have just purchased my 10 gal tote toady for grey water so I think I am all set for grey water disposal. I am now wondering how to refill the fresh water when needed. I was thinking of buying two of the 5 gallon water canisters from walmart and using them to fill the tank on the as. Is this a common mechanism for filling the freshwater tank?
If you don't have access to a potable water source with a hose, water canisters can fill the bill or the tank as the case may be. Just a note, make sure they are rated for potable water storage.
Usually I will fill the black water or grey water tanks before the fresh water is exhausted.
We practice water conservation and can get by for over a week with 35 gallons for two people.
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The 6 Gallon Jerry can is from Walmart, the stand is from Home Depot and the Super Siphon is off the web.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I bought my two green water cans today at walmart. Off for the siphon after work. I have a small AL table that I will try using instead of the rack. Does the water can need to be a lot higher than the water fill?


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Last week I was boondocking in Lincoln Natl forest in N.M. I ordered a 40 gal water bladder from Camping World and was very pleased with it. It held more than my fresh tank, we laid it on the back of a pick up cover (could've put it on the roof as well) and it reduced the number of trips needed during the week. It folded up very small afterward. Someone posted on the CW site that they didn't like it but we sure did. I sanitized it with Purogene before use and there was no flavor to the water. I've also seen some take a large plastic bin that they use to store or carry supplies in and simply drill a hole and add a spigot on the bottom. Clear out the stuff, clean it and then use it as well. You'd want a tight lid to prevent sloshing though.

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The 6 Gallon Jerry can is from Walmart, the stand is from Home Depot and the Super Siphon is off the web.
I bought 3 of those from WalMart a couple of months back. Unless I'm wrong mine say 7 gallons on them. I carry them with me empty and only fill them if we exhaust the existing supply in the holding tank. Cost was about $5 each.

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Just make sure that thew bottom of the can is slightly higher than the fill point. A couple of inches. I usually tip the can to a corner when it's almost finished, to allow the siphon to get all the water, but not necessary.
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Nother Boondocking question

I can see that I am going to want a generator. Have read all the information about the choices here. The discussions have been great and I will make my choice based upon this great advice.
I like the Yamaha because a factory authorized conversion to propane is available and I am told it is incredibly quiet. I would like the 150+lb one which means that there is a transport problem (a weak back problem, also). It could be kept in the back of the TV but I hope there is a better way. Has anyone, for example, set up a way to put it on the front of an Excursion and operate it from there? I understand that this is a high theft item so security would be an issue.

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I can see that I am going to want a generator. Have read all the information about the choices here. The discussions have been great and I will make my choice based upon this great advice.
I like the Yamaha because a factory authorized conversion to propane is available and I am told it is incredibly quiet. I would like the 150+lb one which means that there is a transport problem (a weak back problem, also). It could be kept in the back of the TV but I hope there is a better way. Has anyone, for example, set up a way to put it on the front of an Excursion and operate it from there? I understand that this is a high theft item so security would be an issue.

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I have the Yamaha that runs on propane, LP, and gas. Although I wanted two smaller Hondas for ease of lifting, being able to run off of propane and not needing to carry gas cans tipped the scales. I installed a front receiver and have a front carrier (etrailer.com). I either carry the generator up there and like you mentioned, just run it from there or carry it in the burb an pull it out. Since I don't use gas there's no fumes when I carry it in the burb. It is very, very quiet. I ordered it from http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-ga...m/ef30iseb.htm I've attached pics of the unit with the propane conversion, one is painted with the Airstream underbelly paint and the other is still the original blue. I'm rigging up a locking method for it as well and will let you know what I come up with.
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One more thing on the generator. David Tidmore at Roger Williams Airstream in Weatherford Texas is installing a circuit board & connector so that when the thermostat on the Air Conditioner signals the AC, it will fire up the generator first, and then the AC will come on. I'd highly recommend them for any kind of work. If you have a cool idea, they have the expertise to do it right. http://rogerwilliams.airstream.com/
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