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Old 11-17-2015, 02:46 PM   #29
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:52 PM   #30
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I have a 30 ft. Airstream with 40 lb. tanks and I cannon see that they made any modifications beside the hold down and cover. I went from 30 lb. to 40 and it sure made a difference on how long they last. Got home with out filling and would of had to fill with 30s.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:24 PM   #31
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If a spare tank or two in the truck is the way you go, I would suggest you consider getting 20 lb tanks.

You can find many more trade-in kiosks than bulk fill places and all the trade-in places deal with nothing but 20 lb tanks.

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Old 11-17-2015, 04:30 PM   #32
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In our previous motor home we spent one Christmas in St Charles, MO. & the temp dropped to 4 degrees on Xmass Eve. I remember using a tremendous amount of propane in the 10 days we were there. The MH with 4 slide outs was a lot more to heat than my AS, but the point being the furnace loves propane & in addition we had a couple electric space heaters going & all the lower cabinet doors open to circulate the heat. So I guess if boondocking in cold weather, the more propane the better.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:29 PM   #33
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I carry a 20# tank for my grill, but it is a backup just in case the 2 30# bottles run empty. I carry the 20# tank in a milk carton which keeps it upright and use a cable with padlock to keep it from walking away.

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Old 11-17-2015, 07:41 PM   #34
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> So that's about 2 1/2 weeks for one tank

With furnace use that sounds about right. We normally get ~3 weeks on a tank just dry camping. (And using it for cooking 2 meals a day)
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Old 11-18-2015, 11:46 PM   #35
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We used the Airstream's gas heater for only a month last winter in Texas and found it to be pretty much useless, so we tore it completely out and gained a lot of storage. In fact we shall gain a little bit more storage when we pull out some of the old ducts under the couch. We used a few blankets, a quilt and flannel sheets. We bought a little electric heater, ranges 750 to 1250, maybe 1500 watts, and that is enough. Of course if you are boondocking that won't work for you. Look at "Mr Heater", it's a small propane heater. My daughter is going to sell hers to us for when we are boondocking at King of the Hammer 2016. She says that they make even a tent toasty on 20 degree nights.

Chris is always hot and I am always cold, so I make it a point to wear long underwear, thick socks, and sweaters during the day, we don't need much heat then for him. At night I get all the covers and him a sheet and we don't need any heat at all. This year we came back to our California house early and it's still warm here, 75 degree days. Deserts are always windy and cold during the winter, not the place you want to boondock unless you can park sheltered inside of a slot canyon, and since we are guaranteed rain in a big way this winter, you DON'T want to park in a slot canyon! Pick another place to winter is what I'd do.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:31 AM   #36
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Usually the gas heáters will work very well. Sorry you had a problem with yours. Those electric heaters work good as long as you have hookups or a generater.
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:15 AM   #37
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Using a portable gas heater inside a trailer requires a lot of ventilation to prevent death from CO poisoning. The factory heater is technically outside as the combustion air and exhaust are sourced and expelled outside the living compartment.

One needs to have outside air coming inane out regardless of the heat source to prevent condensation inside the trailer on the walls from breathing which could run down to the floor and start that issue.
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:19 AM   #38
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Bold what temps are you seeing overnight and what are you setting as a temp on the furnace? I went through about one tank last week while down in Las Vegas NM. Overnight temps were in the teens and I set the inside temp for 50. Ran it a bit during the day in the morning until sun heating kicked in. Daytime temps were in the 50-60 range. So about 1-1.5 gallons per day in usage.
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:21 AM   #39
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Catalytic heaters don't produce carbon monoxide, but they do consume oxygen and require fresh air venting. The newer models have low oxygen sensors and will shutoff should the levels drop precariously. For me, I could/would not sleep with one running, but would use one to heat up the living space in the mornings or the evening right before retiring.
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Bold what temps are you seeing overnight and what are you setting as a temp on the furnace? I went through about one tank last week while down in Las Vegas NM. Overnight temps were in the teens and I set the inside temp for 50. Ran it a bit during the day in the morning until sun heating kicked in. Daytime temps were in the 50-60 range. So about 1-1.5 gallons per day in usage.
Last week was the cold snap with it dipping down into to 39 each night.

It's starting to warm up. Night before last was 48 and last night it got only down to 50. Rest of the week is mild and I'm moving to Yuma tomorrow anyhow.

We keep our furnace at 62, because of little ones (two under 2) who can't have heavy blankets on them yet for suffocation reasons.

So we emptied one tank before the furnace failed in about a 7 days. We've been here for 3 weeks Saturday. And that was during the cold snap.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:25 PM   #41
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Bold, when my adult children were babies and threw the covers off at home, (we couldn't afford to use the heat at night), or we went camping and they climbed out of their sleeping bags, I had them wear two pair of PJs and a pair of onsies to bed. One pair of jersey type footie pajamas, and a pair of footie blanket pajamas over that, the onsies were the first layer of course. You just have to buy your blanket PJs a size bigger to go over everything. I used to try and put beanie hats on them too, but they never stayed on. The baby always slept in bed with us for the first six to nine months and was never in danger of being cold at night,(we spaced them almost three years apart so we never had more than one baby at a time there), it was always the next year or two, sometime around four they learn to keep their covers on or at least pull them back over themselves.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:47 PM   #42
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Usually the gas heáters will work very well. Sorry you had a problem with yours. Those electric heaters work good as long as you have hookups or a generater.
You would be the very first person to say so. Everyone else I have chatted with agrees with me, Airstream heaters just don't work well enough to actually heat anything up. We threw ours out with the trash.

You are correct about needing hookups or generator for our electric heater, that is exactly how we handle it. Chris says if we ran the generator all night long to run it, it wouldn't cost us more than a gallon, two at the most. But we don't run the heater at night, we sleep under quilts and blankets instead. Our little heater is one we bought from Camp World, it looks like a wood burning stove. I bought one like it for my little granny flat house here in Vista back in 2012 and it works just fine. I looked at a LOT of different heaters, read a TON of reviews, and then looked for the best price. I needed to heat up my whole little house, it doesn't have heat. It's the original house built on this piece of farmland back in the '40s. The one that I bought for the AS last year was less expensive than the one for my house, and it has a knob to turn the heat up and down. I like being able to have more than two temperatures, and it makes the place all toasty pretty quick.
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