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Old 02-03-2008, 10:48 PM   #1
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Any Caravans to Baja coming up?

I am hopeing to get away before too long and do some sightseeing and diving down there. Will be my first trip to that part of Mexico. Would be nice if a caravan was in the works.
I have the travel guide by Mike Church ordered but I have yet to receive it. What is the price range for RV spots? My tenative plan is to head down Mex 5 then 1 to Cabo Pulmo.
If no caravan planned, anyone heading down around March or April?
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:30 PM   #2
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Scuba, I have not been to Baja for years, but it is like no other place on the Planet, A land of contrast, stunningy beautiful, sparsley populated, a desert surrounded by ocean. Cabo Pulmo reef is now a National Park. The Church's guide is a good reference. Here is a Baja travelers forum, loaded with info. BajaNomad Forums - "Peace, Love & Fish Tacos" Have a great trip
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:37 PM   #3
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There is a WBCCI caravan the full length of Baja and back starting 2-28-07.
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hi scuba66...

did you come to the topsail rally 3 weeks ago?

we were very close to p-cola.

we've had some off channel chat about a baja trip, but no set plans.

someone on the left coast (biged? or uwe?) take a short trip into baja each year,

but it's only a sampler...like 3-4 days, i think.

you should be able to search the archives here and find their trips...

i've read the church's books too, they are apparently down there NOW working on the details for the next edition.

anyway i'd be interested in 3-6 weeks in late march and april or even early may...

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Hello,
Thanks for the link Tom, I will check it out. The February departure would be a bit too early for me.
The April/May time frame sounds good. I have not been to any rallys. I am pretty new to Airstreams. My Grandparents had one in the early 70's. I was about 5-6 years old when I first saw it. From what I am told, I told my Grandmother, "this things not big enough to sling a cat in". Not sure where I got that line at such a young age.
I plan on staying down there for about a year and doing some diving. So, at least you would have company on the way down. Maybe we can geet a couple of other travelers by then to keep the caravan intact once the turn North is made. I will keep in touch, I have quite a few things to accomplish before I leave to prepare for an extended stay abroad.
Thanks Again for all the feedback,
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What is the price range for RV spots? My tenative plan is to head down Mex 5 then 1 to Cabo Pulmo.
If no caravan planned, anyone heading down around March or April?
Mex 5 pretty much ends somewhere between San Felipe and Puertecitos. From there, it is a very rough, often severely washboarded dirt road towards Mex1. I would not dream of towing through this area, unless 2mph is an acceptable speed.
The area south of Puerecitos is very beatiful, though, ina strange sort of way. It is where the desert meets the bluest sea I have ever seen...the contrast of dry and wet is extreme, and the vistas and isolation is quite good for the soul. 4x4 is not absolutely required, but a locking diff, and ground clearance is a must.
For towing, I would recommend crossing at Mexicali, then taking Mex3 W to Mex1 South, or just stay on I-8 and go to the Tijuana crossing, catching 1 south from there.
Baja is definitely worth a long visit - the further south/east you go, the better it gets. Don't forget that you need visitor's visas for Baja California Sur.
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Hi Uwe,
Thanks for the info. The area south of Puertecitos sounds very interesting! Wouldn't mind a little faster travel speed but I sure would like to see it. Your description really has me motivated to give it a shot. Besides, when you think about sea yachts cruise at about 5 - 7 knots, slow does not seem too unbearable. I think I averaged about the same speed coming back from Montgomery Alabama to Pensacola after Hurricane Opal in 1995. Its slow! Would love to hear more details about this route.
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Hi Uwe,
Thanks for the info. The area south of Puertecitos sounds very interesting! Wouldn't mind a little faster travel speed but I sure would like to see it. Your description really has me motivated to give it a shot. Besides, when you think about sea yachts cruise at about 5 - 7 knots, slow does not seem too unbearable. I think I averaged about the same speed coming back from Montgomery Alabama to Pensacola after Hurricane Opal in 1995. Its slow! Would love to hear more details about this route.
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Hey Ray,

It's doable with a trailer, but unless you want to end up with scrap metal after your trip, it's adviseable to lower the tire pressure to the minimum you can get away with, and drive very slowly. Same for your truck. I did it in a Jeep a few times, and basically ended up with broken springs and u-joints every time. On the bright side, they have very creative welders in every little town down there. "Taller Mechanico" is what you're looking for.
I wasn't kidding when I said 2mph....
There is little to no fuel supply after Puertecitos until you get to Bahia de los Angeles, and it's in plastic jugs and barrels most of the time. Bahia is great, nature and scenery is mesmerizing. Further south from there is 4x4 only - towing definitely out. Best perhaps to leave the trailer in San Felipe, and make it a 3-day side trip to Bahia and back in the truck and sleeping bags. Bahia Luis Gonzaga and Coco's Corner are definitely a treat...Alfonsinas Airstrip and beach are a great place to get some fresh local fish and have teh bbq of your life... There's much more, best to get Google earth and check it out.
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I see what you mean. Looks like Willie E Coyote and Roadrunner country.
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uwe is on the money about the road from Puertecitos south. We have been going down that road since about 1975 and went to Alfonsinas last May. That road is not a good place to take a nice trailer. We tow a jeep trailer when we go that route and still air down the tiers on both the jeep and trailer and that road still sucks. That said it is a beautiful place and the food at Alfonsinas is great. You might think about leaving your trailer at a SAFE place in San Felipe and going down overnight they have rooms to rent there that are ok.
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Thanks for the info. A side trip to this area sounds very interesting. Any safe place recommendations in San Felipe? Did you see any diving activity in that area when you were there?
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We have a lot north of San Felipe in a development called El Dorado Ranch. They had an RV park but closed it. I do not know if there are any more RV parks in San Felipe but a net ckeck might find one. The Ranch is on the web also. The most I have done is some light diving in the Sea of Cortez but it was real nice.
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It's probably too late to help the original author of this thread, but in case anyone else is reading this, I will add my two cents. I have a home in Loreto, Baja California Sur, but I tow my 21' Sovereign down here every year from Nevada. I'm in Loreto now, but will be leaving for Nevada (via Tijuana) in a week or so for Christmas. At the present time, the main highway 1 is in good condition all the way to Cabo San Lucas. Side roads that are in the area where the hurricanes passed (between Loreto and Cabo) are still in pretty rough condition and one should always inquire locally before trying to navigate them, especially if towing a trailer. The best road atlas that I have found for the Baja is "Baja California Almanac", published by Baja Almanac Publishers, Inc., 5130 E. Charleston Blvd, Suite 5-52, Las Vegas, NV 89142 (www.baja-almanac.com). It contains 55 pages of detailed maps showing every highway, road, trail, etc. in the Baja and it is a must for anyone traveling off the main highway. With all of the recent drug related shootings at the border, I think it is worth mentioning again that you should NEVER DRIVE AT NIGHT any where in Mexico. Also, be sure to cross the border early enough in the day that you can get yourself safely south of the border and into a campground for the night. I agree with a previous writer that the Mike & Terri Church, "Traveler's Guide to Camping Mexico's Baja" is the best camp ground guide that I have found to the Baja, especially if you take advantage of their web site to get the most recent information available. In January/February of this year (2008), I did a 5,000 mile trip with my Airstream around central and southern Mexico and at that time, did not know about the Church Guide (there is a separate Church guide to 'mainland' Mexico) and bought another guide, which I don't even remember the name of because I ended up throwing it out because it was useless. If you are coming from the eastern US, I highly recommend crossing the border at Tecate, Mexico and driving through Mexico's wine country. Not only is it more scenic, there are far fewer hassles crossing there than at Tijuana and you avoid the traffic and stress of driving through TJ, epecially if you have never done it before. Mexico 1 and 3 take you to Ensenada where you link up with the main highway heading south towards Guerrero Negro and Cabo San Lucas. If anyone wants more information, please let me know.
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We found your comments very interesting and helpful. We are thinking of driving from SanDiego to Cabo after Christmas, in our Durango, without our Airstream. We are concerned about crime and tourist safety and plan to travel beyond the first 100 miles south of the border, the first day. We are having difficulty getting factual info on crime and tourist safety, south of Santo Tomas.

Do you have a recommendation for our first night destination?

Can you shed any light on daytime travel security issues for the area Ensenada and south to Cabo?
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