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Old 05-03-2016, 01:32 PM   #43
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Box, thanks answering the question I asked "you". Others could not resist chiming in with typical Airforums style responses.
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Old 05-14-2016, 05:41 AM   #44
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I also live in Florida and as we look for our AS one of our criteria is good ventilation. I hate the idea of running a generator and don't usually camp in FL during the hot months because of the heat. I was following this thread as I am also concerned about dispersed camping and AC access. The conversation here has moved over to generator noise levels so I was wondering, does/has anyone used enclosures to attenuate the noise? Something like is found on boats. Thanks in advance for the input.
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Old 05-14-2016, 06:19 AM   #45
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It's been my experience that, but for the big Class A's, there is little AC and ongoing generator use in boondocking locations.

Many who prefer the nature experience would be resentful of the noise and odor of generator use.

If you are on shade, use your vent fan. If not, find electricity.

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Old 05-14-2016, 07:12 AM   #46
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Thumbs up If we lived in Fla....yes,

...we would have enough to run the AC

But we live in the 'cool blue North'....not really needed....yet.

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Old 05-14-2016, 04:48 PM   #47
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"But we live in the 'cool blue North'....not really needed." Freeze warning for tonight in southern Wisconsin.
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Old 05-14-2016, 05:52 PM   #48
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Hi OP, We live on the edge of the Mojave desert and camp there year round. When it is in the triple digits or during the monsoon season when it is very humid. We run the A/C off two Honda 2000's.

With NATO gas cans which do not leak or allow a gas aroma. We do fine hauling all we need for comfort.
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Old 05-14-2016, 09:25 PM   #49
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4 years ago I picked up a 4K genset at Harbor Freight. I've only used it on rare occasions - I doubt if I have put 50 hours on it. Noise notwithstanding, it has served me well, mainly when I was boondocking in the Mojave near Pahrump and my batteries died. I ran the genset over 3 nights in order to power my CPAP machine. Other times when it was needed was when one of the GYM ST tires blew, and I needed to top up the spare. (15" ST tires now gone and replaced with 16" Michelin LTX). It would be hard for me to justify buying a 4K Honda given the amount of use I have for a genset, but the HF 4K at $250 all-in has done fine for me.
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Old 05-15-2016, 05:16 AM   #50
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It's been my experience that, but for the big Class A's, there is little AC and ongoing generator use in boondocking locations.

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They tend to observe quiet hours, in my Texas experience. We noticed this most strongly in parks that have equestrian areas, which have no hook-ups. A deafening din of generators while the sun was up and then - presto - all of them turned off. So if someone is considering generator use under those circumstances, they'd have to include in their pro vs. con analysis the need to turn them off overnight.
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:35 AM   #51
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I believe I understand what you are considering. I too live in Florida and if you camp in the summer, unless there is quite a breeze, you probably want air at least to sleep. I camped for two weeks last year with all but a few days boon docking. I was traveling in the southeast and it rained half the time and the humidity was through the roof- the hottest was in Wilmington NC with no hookups in a place where generators not allowed.

My generator runs on LP and I used under 2# of LP in about 10 hours of AC use. I watched TV and made coffee too through the inverter. I will say that my inverter failed during the trip as well. So the first part I had to skip the coffee making. A small inverter ran the TV until I got the replacement while in Ohio. The question for you is can you live without AC? Everything else can be obtained through an inverter and powered (recharged) by solar or your generator. This chart is a guide to usage. There is 184,000 BTU in a pound of LP and it is around (1400 watts) 4709 BTU to run my AC an hour I believe. Convert amps to KW then BTU.

http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-ga...onsumption.htm

As far as noise, my unit is very quiet. I had it running continuously in parking lots when staying at RV centers for one nighters when traveling north. It sits in the truck bed and on a rubber mat. You had to be about 10 feet or so to really hear it. From the facility door you could not hear it at all. I would walk back and forth to get coffee, etc (inverter was broken then). Further the sound was faint or not heard at all. Inside the stream you have to be in front and listen for it to hear it.
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If I were camping in the South in the summer, I could not sleep without AC.

I can't sleep without it here in the humid Midwest in that kind of weather.

It is good to remind people of the quiet hours rules in public, no hookups campgrounds, which I don't think had been mentioned here before and which I had not thought of at all.

Many campgrounds have strict generator hours...a few hours in the am and early pm, plus the overnight quiet hours for everyone and everything.

All important things to consider and look into when considering multiple generator purchases so one can run AC when boondocking.


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Old 05-15-2016, 11:33 AM   #53
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i have a leer cap on my truck with hinged out side glass and it is lined with a bed rug. 2 honda 2000's with the cap shut and the cap to truck cab glass slid open for venting, result; silent until you get within 40 feet and at best i would describe the sound as a faint hummmm!
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The addition of a capacitor (there are already 2 that are part of the engineered design) will not allow you to start the compressor unless it is one hell of a large capacitor!

I have many lithium battery based systems on the road now that use Magnum's MSH-3012M hybrid inverter/charger. Most of these folks carry a single 2000 watt generator that WILL start and run the single roof A/C flawlessly using the Magnum's load support feature.

I can tell you with certainty that while observing the ME-RC remote along with the Blue Sky battery monitor panels, the initial transient jolt that the compressor requires is in excess of 3000 watts. As this is a starting transient, the inverter is fully capable of handling this, as is a standard 20 amp 120VAC circuit or 3000 watt generator, but I would be hard pressed to find a capacitor with the same ability.

And not to mention that an additional capacitor will definitely put a huge strain on the compressor and WILL void the warranty of any new unit.
Lew, the Lithium based system you spoke of herein, what is the approximate cost of this?

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HELP!!!!
Have 2 Honda Eu2009I generators set up in parallel and I cannot power 1 AC!!!!?????
I can get zone 2 in my 30ft bunk to start but only for 20sec or so.
At that point, the generators switch off into red light.....overload alarm.

Suggestions, guidance ,
And yes, triple checked the polarity black L red R 30 amp receiver in my companion unit. Eco throttle off.

Thank you!!!!!!!
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HELP!!!!
Have 2 Honda Eu2009I generators set up in parallel and I cannot power 1 AC!!!!?????
I can get zone 2 in my 30ft bunk to start but only for 20sec or so.
At that point, the generators switch off into red light.....overload alarm.

Suggestions, guidance ,
And yes, triple checked the polarity black L red R 30 amp receiver in my companion unit. Eco throttle off.

Thank you!!!!!!!
Water heater on gas?
Fridge on gas?
Converter off?

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