Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-27-2012, 11:51 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
Wishing's Avatar
 
2014 27' FB International
Clovis , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 99
About to buy new airstream (23D)with no factory 600W inverter...

But will I need this? I want to boondock, but do use my iPad heavily and a coffee machine and have two kids that will want to watch TV...if we go through this purchase is there any other option (ie, buying some kind of plug in inverter at an electronics store) that will allow me to do this? And if this is possible, where exactly on/in the trailer do you plug it into? Can anyone advise me on my options?
__________________

__________________
Wishing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 12:05 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
wkerfoot's Avatar
 
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange , California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,667
Charge your Ipad through a 12V USB plug,purchase 12V TV (most are 12V anyway and use an convertor inline to reduce the 110V AC to 12V DC) and make your coffee on the stove top. You many need more battery if your usage is so heavy.

Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishing View Post
But will I need this? I want to boondock, but do use my iPad heavily and a coffee machine and have two kids that will want to watch TV...if we go through this purchase is there any other option (ie, buying some kind of plug in inverter at an electronics store) that will allow me to do this? And if this is possible, where exactly on/in the trailer do you plug it into? Can anyone advise me on my options?
__________________

__________________
Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA

http://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
wkerfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
2006 22' International CCD
2007 Base Camp
Elk Valley , British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 657
A 600W inverter is really small and can be bought at any shop for maybe $20... it's not really that spectacular a feature and can be easily managed.
__________________
Friday is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 03:24 PM   #4
Rivet Master<br><img src="/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif">
 
CanoeStream's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud , Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,279
Images: 19
Blog Entries: 3
Wishing -- welcome to the forums!

Resistance appliances like a coffee maker, hair dryer or toaster will drain a pair of batteries faster than a [choose outlandish metaphor]. Note that your batteries will fail early if they are drained often to less than 40-45% capacity. I have a variety of French presses at my disposal.

Solar won't put enough amp-hours back into batteries to keep up with any ambitious daily consumption. The most attainable answer is a generator to recharge. A 40 pounder like a Honda eu2000i is easy to manage but it'll take the beastly 80 pound eu3000i if you ever need to run air conditioning from a genset. Equivalent good options are available from Yamaha. Yamaheads? Isn't the Yamaha 30A genset lighter?

Your hookups vs. drycamping usage will become apparent only after you've been camping for a period. I wouldn't recommend the big gensets until you have a practical understanding of your actual usage.
__________________
Bob

5 meter Langford Nahanni

CanoeStream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 03:44 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
TBRich's Avatar

 
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson , Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,483
Images: 64
Welcome to the Airforums! If you are going to boondock a lot, you will most likely find yourself needing an auxillary power source of some kind...you don't say whether your unit will have solar or not...if it does, it will help but, you would probably enjoy having a generator to keep things pumped up, everything running, and for those times when you need to run an appliance .... you can't go indefinitely with battery power alone and an inverter...

Our Bambi has a 600 watt inverter built in. The inverter is handy, but it is not enough watts to run anything that heats (like a coffee maker)...and we could live without it if we had to. As mentioned you can charge items using the 12v outlets. We do use our inverter for charging phones and laptops, etc and can run the TV, but all that put together using the inverter puts more drain on the batteries, and can make it hard for solar to keep up. When we are dry camping we tend to charge everything we need charged while the generator is running. And we use a stove top percolator for coffee...(even when we have power)...

Good luck!
__________________
TB & Greg and Abbey Schnauzer
AirForums #21900 . Membership Chair, 4C
Unit #3954
Travel Log: AZBambi...On the Road Again
TBRich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 05:23 PM   #6
2 Rivet Member
 
Wishing's Avatar
 
2014 27' FB International
Clovis , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 99
Thank you so much for all the responses...I was worried that not having the inverter was going to be a deal breaker, but it seems like that's not the case after all. Looks like this will be a good excuse if any to try making coffee using a French press. We are really excited about taking this big step, and equally nervous. The other big concern is we're going to have to store it in the hot FL sun this upcoming year I between uses so I'm trying to gather a lot of info here on that as well! These forums are so amazing. Thank you again!
__________________
Wishing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #7
4 Rivet Member
 
Eric H's Avatar
 
1974 23' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
1947 25' Spartan , Manor
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 457
Images: 9
Get yourself a French press:
Amazon.com: Bodum Chambord 8 cup French Press Coffee Maker, 34 oz., Chrome: Kitchen & Dining
...but any one will do.
You will never use your drip coffee maker again at home or in your airstream! If you want to get very particular about it you can also get a thermometer and heat your water to the correct temp (200 degrees) :-)
__________________
Eric H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2013, 02:31 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
carl2591's Avatar
 
2005 31' Classic
Garner, , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 775
french press...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
Get yourself a French press:
Amazon.com: Bodum Chambord 8 cup French Press Coffee Maker, 34 oz., Chrome: Kitchen & Dining
...but any one will do.
You will never use your drip coffee maker again at home or in your airstream! If you want to get very particular about it you can also get a thermometer and heat your water to the correct temp (200 degrees) :-)

What makes for a good vs bad french press?.. and do you use less coffee with them.??

there are several on amazon in different price ranges.. the one you mentioned Bodum type is at top of heap. just wonder the difference.
__________________
Carl, Raleigh NC
2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D
Timeshare owner/user since '99
TUG2.net check it out for good rental deals
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Unit #161, Region #3
carl2591 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2013, 03:03 PM   #9
Moderator
 
DKB_SATX's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
1976 Argosy 28
Alamo Heights , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,401
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by carl2591 View Post
What makes for a good vs bad french press?.. and do you use less coffee with them.??

there are several on amazon in different price ranges.. the one you mentioned Bodum type is at top of heap. just wonder the difference.
IMHO a bad french press (for an Airstream) is one made of glass... We used to have a glass one.

The one we chose is stainless steel and double-walled to keep the coffee hot so we can have 2 cups each and the 2nd cup won't be cold. It's a Bodum Presso, but there are other styles from Bodum and other companies. One thing I didn't like about the Presso that I think is a new-Bodum issue rather than one with the Presso itself is that the frame for the press screen is plastic. However, the interior diameter is the same as the old glass press I broke, so I transferred the metal screen from that one to the new one and have a hybrid of sorts.
__________________
David

Zero Gravitas 2017 Flying Cloud 26U | Il Progetto 1976 Argosy 28 Center Bath | WBCCI# 15566

He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. Sir Winston Churchill
DKB_SATX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2013, 05:01 PM   #10
retired USA/USAF

 
2001 30' Excella
Somerset , New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,157
Who needs coffee. Take TEA and SEE. Remember those commercials ????
__________________
Roger in NJ

" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948

TAC - NJ 18

polarlyse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2013, 09:28 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Hibby's Avatar
 
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits , Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 561
Images: 14
I agree with the french press idea. I use an Aerobie and love it. It's one, maybe two cups at a time but the coffee is the best. I have a teapot on the stove to make hot water for the press.

In spite of having an inverter, I rarely use it. We have a pair of Honda 2000 generators and they can be coupled together when necessary for full 30 amps, but like the inverter, almost never necessary.

I would recommend a single Honda 2000 or similar size, and as TBRich suggests, just run it for an hour a day to recharge the Airstream batteries and plug in your laptops and iPads while it's running. You won't have A/C with just one smaller generator, but you can always add a second one later if necessary.

Good Luck!
__________________
Hibby
Hibby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2013, 10:41 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
wulfraat's Avatar

 
2017 30' International
Broomfield , Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 822
Images: 1
If you are going to boondock you'll want solar and some good batteries. that is the most important upgrade along with LEDs (if your trailer is not already equipped). We use a crummy little 400w inverter and can watch TV for 2+ hours on our lifelines without any issues. I have never drained the batteries more than 50% and with 310Watts (~17 amps of solar charging) up top the battery bank is always back to 100% the next day.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f485...ml#post1321638

I did extensive research on solar and such before making the investment... glad I didn't invest in a built-in inverter - their expensive and you can get by without them. My little portable unit powers the TV and costs < $100 bucks.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	14.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	42.0 KB
ID:	190047  
__________________
wulfraat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 11:04 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
Larry C's Avatar
 
1996 34' Excella
Elberta , Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
French press stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by carl2591 View Post
What makes for a good vs bad french press?.. and do you use less coffee with them.??

there are several on amazon in different price ranges.. the one you mentioned Bodum type is at top of heap. just wonder the difference.
Glass works fine! Don't get the plastic versions, they scratch easily. We've used a 4 cup Bodum for years. Wonderful coffee, (We use Community Club Dark Roast). We use about the same amount of coffee, but then, we like a full bodied, strong coffee. You can buy replacement glass if needed. Just pack it well in the cabinet and you'll be fine..
__________________
Old age is coming at a really bad time!

1996 34' Excella 1000, interior totally redone, 2003 Dodge/Cummins HO, U.S. Gear exhaust brake, Diablo tuner, 115 gallon aux fuel, Bedslide, Airsafe/Reese Dual Cam, and a bunch of other stuff
Larry C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2013, 12:34 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
kscherzi's Avatar
 
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills , California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,137
Images: 24
I have a 300 watt solar setup and an inverter. I do not attempt to use it to make coffee, operate a toaster, or any other heavy current demanding usage. I make coffee with this excellent $10 manual drip maker Melitta Cone Filter Coffeemaker 10 Cup, 1-Count: Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food.

The inverter is fine for powering the TV/DVD, charging cell phones, and light duty kitchen appliances (like a hand mixer). Anything more demanding will ruin your batteries (unless you have large bank of eight or more).
__________________

__________________
kscherzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.